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It was mentioned a while ago on Sportsnet from ex-leafs GM Brian Burke that the Leafs should look at moving Nylander's contract, to another team in exchange for a defenseman with a similar contract? Do you think he's right? or Wrong? What other trade would you like to see rather than Ellis? (if a trade were to happen, id pick Ellis so that's why he's here)
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14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 33
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Double posting is a stupid idea.


I agree
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14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 34
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not to be like that guy but Joe Thornton is a confusing sign. please tell me why Joe is still in the NHL and did not retire?


He wants to win a cup.
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Double posting is a stupid idea.


you mean double quoting
14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 35
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Quoting: Saskleaf
He wants to win a cup.


he will be 72 before he does that. sorry to break it to joe Thornton fans
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14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 36
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Oh crap, don't scream too loudly, TheLeafsSeason's gonna come running with a banner reading «Nylander for sale, 50% discount»
14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 36
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Quoting: mondo
Double posting is a stupid idea.


not as stupid an idea as trading a young 30-40 goal scorer for a penalty killing dman
14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 36
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Nope, as good as he is, I'd rather trade Marner. Nylander makes under 7 mil, for just under a PPG production last year.
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Quoting: mondo
Double posting is a stupid idea.


Gotta love this comment LMFAOtears of joy
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14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 38
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because he can still play hockey lol. He's slow af but he's a leader, a wicked passer, and is more physical than who he's replacing.

he just spent a few months warming up in switzerland and had 10p in 11gp.



ik but by that logic tampa should've traded kuch or point because they weren't winning. It's such a silly philosophy, you lose in spite of your core, not because of them. You assembled them then tweak around the edges


Now now, I am just saying he's not untouchable. If they can get a similar player who fit they're needs better, say trading him for someone like Ryan Poluck, they should do it.
14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 38
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not as stupid an idea as trading a young 30-40 goal scorer for a penalty killing dman


Gosh, are you implying that Ellis is just a «penalty killing d-man»????
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14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 39
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Quoting: mondo
Trading the core is a stupid idea.


Not if you get another core player in return.

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Double posting is a stupid idea.


Haha yes.
14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 40
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because he can still play hockey lol. He's slow af but he's a leader, a wicked passer, and is more physical than who he's replacing.

he just spent a few months warming up in switzerland and had 10p in 11gp.

Guess who Tampa did trade. Druoin, for Sergachev. That worked out pretty well. Nylander is better than Druoin, but my piont is Tampa did trade a somewhat core piece to get a better player in the long run.
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14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 41
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Now now, I am just saying he's not untouchable. If they can get a similar player who fit they're needs better, say trading him for someone like Ryan Poluck, they should do it.


but then who's filling that colossal offensive gap?

the thing people don't realize is just how rare it is to have not only a 1/2 star centre combo, but to also give them wingers to play with. The fact that our offence is guaranteed top 5 every year because our top 6 is so hilariously stack with 40-50 goal centres and 70-95 point wingers is an asset. Trading that away for a guy who will play solid defence when precedent shows we've been able to acquire guys BETTER than pulock without giving up a star player would make the team worse

like even look at this team, Mikheyev and Robertson in the top 6? Is that really gonna work?
14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 41
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
"stay the same" when we've swapped out barrie/ceci for bogosian, lehtonen, and brodie, we're giving more prominent roles to our prospects, brought in wayne simmonds for 4th line duty and HoFer joe thornton to replace gauthier, added depth guys like vesey, anderson, and barabanov and added not 1 but 2 backup goalies - but yes, the leafs are the same


You know what i mean. The core is flawed. It’s been trotted out on the biggest stage, and beat back with a broom for three straight years now. Want to just count Tavares years? Sure. Same story. They aren’t tough to play against. As a bruins fan i hope they keep doing the same old thing. Makes the division a lot easier.

This core doesn’t work, and it’s not going to. Want to make the argument it shouldn’t be nylander? Fine. But one of the big four has to be moved for a return that alters the way the team is built.
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He wants to win a cup.

He made a really bad choice.
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14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 42
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not as stupid an idea as trading a young 30-40 goal scorer for a penalty killing dman

Settle down tiger. He’s hit 31 once. Not sure where that 40 number popped into the conversation.
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14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 42
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Right. Getting tired of the «muh big four all the way» mentality. Like it's as if these people wouldn't trade Marner for 28 ish years old Crosby or something anything close to that (to be fair I'd move MM for a 33 year old Sid no question lol)
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he will be 72 before he does that. sorry to break it to joe Thornton fans

Ok, I never said he would.
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Gosh, are you implying that Ellis is just a «penalty killing d-man»????


yeah no, he's better than that, a lot better, that was just a generalization

still, on the subject of ellis, he's signed till he's 36 on that contract, idk if I'd want that - his offence could slow down a lot in that time, and as he's rounding off his career willy would likely be in his prime

it would be major kadri syndrome i.e. "never should've traded that guy"
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Settle down tiger. He’s hit 31 once. Not sure where that 40 number popped into the conversation.


Right. The only guaranteed 40 goal guy in TOR is Matthews. Willy and JT are in the 30-39 goal range most likely
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Ok, I never said he would.


I'm just saying
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14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 44
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not to be like that guy but Joe Thornton is a confusing sign. please tell me why Joe is still in the NHL and did not retire?


Why retire? If NHL teams are still willing to pay you 700k then keep playing.
14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 45
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Settle down tiger. He’s hit 31 once. Not sure where that 40 number popped into the conversation.


Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Right. The only guaranteed 40 goal guy in TOR is Matthews. Willy and JT are in the 30-39 goal range most likely


31g in 68 games played lol. that alone is a 37 goal pace across 82 games. And that's counting the first 23 games of the season where his ice time was way less - when keefe took over he got PP1 time and his 5v5 time went up by 1-2 minutes per game, and he was scoring at a 42 goal pace
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Why retire? If NHL teams are still willing to pay you 700k then keep playing.


ya when the big guys are making 2x what he makes
14 déc. 2020 à 10 h 45
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yeah no, he's better than that, a lot better, that was just a generalization

still, on the subject of ellis, he's signed till he's 36 on that contract, idk if I'd want that - his offence could slow down a lot in that time, and as he's rounding off his career willy would likely be in his prime

it would be major kadri syndrome i.e. "never should've traded that guy"


Ok phew, major sigh of relief, carry on (even if I don't agree with 2/3 of what you're saying here)
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