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Créé par: Barnsuelo
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 13 déc. 2020
Publié: 13 déc. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
14 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
TBL
  1. Stecher, Troy
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (DET)
DET
  1. Coburn, Braydon
  2. Stamkos, Steven
Détails additionnels:
Waive Stamkos with the understanding DET will claim, (Avoid NMC)
2.
TBL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NSH)
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2022
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2023
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NTC
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UFA - 4
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 2
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UFA - 1
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RFA - 1
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737 500 $737 500 $
C
UFA - 2
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
DG
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UFA - 5
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
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UFA - 8
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UFA - 6
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
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UFA - 2
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
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800 000 $800 000 $
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UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
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13 déc. 2020 à 19 h 6
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Wings pass, not trading stecher and not helping tampa with any aging player unless they pay us to take them.
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13 déc. 2020 à 19 h 9
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Can you waive an nmc?
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13 déc. 2020 à 19 h 13
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I'd do it if Stammer is fully healthy. Wings could retain a good portion and get a substantial return
13 déc. 2020 à 19 h 15
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Let's imagine you can waive a NMC, then Wings have no motivation to give up Stecher and the two picks. or take Coburn.
13 déc. 2020 à 19 h 16
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You can’t waive Stamkos on an NMC anyway, and this is the type of move that really loses the faith of the room and hurts negotiations down the line. This doesn’t help Detroit either. Stamkos doesn’t make them a playoff team, but he does lower their draft position. By the time Detroit can build a good group around Stamkos, he’ll probably be too old to really contribute. This is absolutely a lose-lose trade.
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13 déc. 2020 à 19 h 20
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Quoting: palhal
Let's imagine you can waive a NMC, then Wings have no motivation to give up Stecher and the two picks. or take Coburn.


The trade would be completed first and would include “future considerations”. That consideration would be that we will waive Stamkos and they will pick him up. Obviously the NMC makes that impossible and anyway, I wouldn’t see Detroit as a good fit. But Stamkos is still a top 20 center in this League and it’s not often one of those becomes available.
13 déc. 2020 à 19 h 26
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Quoting: Theozler
Can you waive an nmc?


Yes Stamkos can waive it but in this case there is no chance he would. With an NMC he can't be put on waivers or be sent to the minors unless he oks it.
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13 déc. 2020 à 19 h 35
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Quoting: aedoran
Yes Stamkos can waive it but in this case there is no chance he would. With an NMC he can't be put on waivers or be sent to the minors unless he oks it.


I meant as put on waivers. As I didn’t think it was possible
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13 déc. 2020 à 19 h 49
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Quoting: Theozler
I meant as put on waivers. As I didn’t think it was possible


Stamkos is still very good so it isn't a big deal. Now if you look at Calgary they honored Lucic's NMC when they got him from Edmonton and no one wants anything to do with that.
13 déc. 2020 à 20 h 10
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Quoting: Theozler
Can you waive an nmc?


Nope? Players with NMC can't be put on waivers, That's one luxury of having a NMC.
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13 déc. 2020 à 20 h 13
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Quoting: aedoran
Yes Stamkos can waive it but in this case there is no chance he would. With an NMC he can't be put on waivers or be sent to the minors unless he oks it.


He means put him on waivers, The answer is No players with NMC can't be put on waivers.
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13 déc. 2020 à 23 h 14
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Quoting: I_Know_Nothing_About_Hockey_Or_Any_Sport2
You can’t waive Stamkos on an NMC anyway, and this is the type of move that really loses the faith of the room and hurts negotiations down the line. This doesn’t help Detroit either. Stamkos doesn’t make them a playoff team, but he does lower their draft position. By the time Detroit can build a good group around Stamkos, he’ll probably be too old to really contribute. This is absolutely a lose-lose trade.


Many valid points. But. I feel an underrated element is tanking teams like Detroit choosing to not bolster their roster making their situation look worse.

In 2022 for instance with Raymond, Seider, Rass, Berggren, etc. on the roster and if they tried to compete like Ottawa this year with Murray, Dado, etc.

I guess my point is being able to acquire a special player like this for so little would turn the tide in ways but they should tank until 2022 ideally for sure
 
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