Does it come with Mr. Freezies?

No ones gonna understand logic if they dont understand english

Exactly my point. Thank you

You know whats crazy? How teams like tampa are able to figure out how to get around significantly overpaid depth, but it's apparently impossible for the leafs to get around slightly over paid elite talent

I would move Tavares immediately rather than moving Nylander, Matthews, and Marner. Since Tavares has a NMC, he is out of the picture, leaving Nylander and Marner into the discussion. The Leafs will fail miserably if they move a 93 point playmaker (expected point total for the 2020-21 season) rather than someone who could easily replace a 60 point player in Nylander. One NHL reporter stated that NHL GMs don't see the value/hype in Nylander. They believe Dubas is overvaluing him to an extent where a trade is impossible.

Yes, these faild gms know their business so well they are literally failed gms that cannot get jobs in hockey. Totally the guys some one should listen to.

Oh no! You critiqued me making a spelling error while i type one handed on my phone at the grocery store! What ever shall i do?

Go look at NHL.com. 15 pts in 25 career playoff games. You guys make him out to be a point per game when hes clearly not

I’m going to give you an NFL example. In 2014, the Chicago Bears had the top offense in the league with Jay Cutler, Alshon Jeffery and Brandon Marshall but they didn’t make the playoffs because their defense was awful. Tampa’s elite players may not be as good as the leafs with Matthews and Tavares vs Point and Cirelli but they have way more depth thus why they have bigger contracts than the leafs depth. Having two top WRs and QB is not enough to make a deep run in the NFL and having two top lines isn’t enough to go far in the NHL.

Stay off the internet. Simple

Again.. exactly my point. Your not winning a championship with 4 superstar players and nothing else behind them. They need depth, they need toughness. Adding Bogosian was great, but still not enough

15 points in 25 games while playing 14 of those games against patrice Bergeron and company.
Context is important

Why? So you can keep pretending that hickeyis stuck in the 80s?

Nylander is not the problem and this fanbase needs to stop running guys like him out of town.

You all ate crow when you ran Kessel out of town and he ended up winning two cups.

Its almost like they are two vastly different sports that dont compare in style or strategy at all.
The leafs didnt lose because they had "nothing behind them" they lost because they played a top 3 team in the league twice and a top 5 team once while getting questiable goaltending, having crap luck injuries and one of their better players suspend himself out of the equation
Yet they still took those teams to the brink twice and 1 game shy the other time.
Then they got hilariously goaltended this year

Blaming Nylander is lazier than they accuse him of being.
Floater hockey fan argument

Im 21.. a 99 baby. I grew up watching speed and skill. But I learned that when the best player gets roughed up and injured and no one is there to protect him, hes gonna have a hard time not preforming to his best abilities if there's no one around him (or in our case 4) to protect him. There needs to be a balance, and if there isnt a balance and everything is super top heavy A.K.A our offence..., they aint going no where

Youth isnt a vaccine against bad logic.
Balance is a funny thing. People cite it all the time qith arguments like this, but they act like toughness and what not is as important as actually being good at hockey.
For things to balance they need to weigh the same on either side. You dont balance when you remove more skill than you add in whatever and 99.999% of the time, they want to throw the balance off way more than they want to improve it

I'm only 20, a 2000 kid. The Leafs need a bit of everything which they do not have. A team can't win with only defense and a team can't win with only offence. You need a mixture of both elements to call yourself a true Stanley Cup contender. Watching Kadri advance to the second round last season hurt, but imagine the pain when he raises the cup above his head as an Avalanche. Wow I miss that beauty and I may even change the name and number of my jersey from Tavares to Kadri.

It will be a stinger for sure. He was the player we needed and had. Stupidest trade IMO. Glad someone else here share the same idea's for once

So you firmly believe that right now the leaf's have an equal amount of offensive talent, defensive talent, heart, passion and grit? What planet did you come from? Is there oxygen?

Tampa didn’t have Stamkos and still won. How? Their depth stepped up. They got goals throughout their lineup. It’s next man up mentality. They had enough depth to replace Stammer and move guys up the lineup. Imagine if Stamkos was healthy it was already the easiest run for a team since the Kings did it for a 2nd time. Doesn’t that mean the lightning are the one of the best teams to ever do it. They had power forwards on every line with Palat, Killorn, Goodrow, Maroon. There needs to be guys that hit and fight for pucks in the corner on every shift. Top guys need to do that too where Matthews already does it, so does Tavares and Marner is too small but he’s really good with his stick so the only one that doesn’t is Nylander. He can learn but he hasn’t yet. I like him he’s just a casualty of the cap ceiling

Exactly.. Patrice Bergeron, Brad Marchand, Brandon Carlo, Jake Debrusk, David Pastrnak, Zdeno Chara, Matt Gryzleck and Charlie McAvoy. Whats the balance here? Did they win? Why did the leafs lose? We all know why they lost and how Boston accomplished that... JUST by reading these names

Did i say that? If i didn't, then no.
They are certainly top heavy in offensive vs defensive and I think that you, and other posters here have zero idea how much heart and passion the team has because you seem to think that if you dont win yiu dont have it.

Well, yeah, he couldn't score against literally the beat line in the league with the best shut down center in the league playing against him.
Crazy how you score less against elite defensive competition