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McDonagh instead of Sergachev

Créé par: truculence67
Équipe: 2020-21 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 24 nov. 2020
Publié: 24 nov. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
(1) Don't have to trade a 1st
(2) Can expose McDonagh and protect Carlo/McAvoy/Gryzelcyk
(3) Window is closing with or without sergachev.
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BOS
  1. McDonagh, Ryan (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
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  1. Zboril, Jakub
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
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24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 21
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I had a similar team. The thought process being, “trade us McDonagh, or an offer sheet is coming tomorrow.”

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/382919
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24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 22
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as much as i would love this, tampa wouldn't accept this. mcdonagh is still a really good defenseman, boston would have to give up more. i love the thought tho!
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 23
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
I had a similar team. The thought process being, “trade us McDonagh, or an offer sheet is coming tomorrow.”


never thought of this lmao
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 24
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I think this would be a great idea, for both sides
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 26
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Don't see Julien BriseBois eating $1,500,000 for the next 6 years on Ryan McDonagh, Tampa is in no position to be eating that much salary long term.
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 26
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never thought of this lmao


Time to be ruthless.
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 26
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Don't see Julien BriseBois eating $1,500,000 for the next 6 years on Ryan McDonagh, Tampa is in no position to be eating that much salary long term.


What if the alternative is losing sergachev?
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24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 29
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What if the alternative is losing sergachev?


And that very well could happen? Unless Julien BriseBois has some massive deal up his sleeve that we don't know about, I don't see where Tampa doesn't risk losing 2 of Cernak, Cirelli and Sergachev.
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 31
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Tampa won't be retaining that much for that long.
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24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 31
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Tampa won't be retaining that much for that long.


Why not?
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 35
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Why not?


Becaue no one does it ever. They'd pay a total sum of $7,5M for nothing.
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24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 37
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Becaue no one does it ever. They'd pay a total sum of $7,5M for nothing.


Do you think they would prefer losing one or more of the RFAs?
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 39
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Do you think they would prefer losing one or more of the RFAs?


Probably not, but there's virtually no risk of that. I can't see offer sheet happening during this covid time. The threat is minimal.

And even if they did get an offer, they'd just match it outright. They can be 10% over the cap during the offseason if need be.
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24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 40
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Tampa will have to pay to move McDonagh. They have no leverage to move him for assets with Sergachev, Cirelli, and Cernak all unsigned with less than $3M in cap space.
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24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 45
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3) Window is closing with or without McDonagh*

His contract is a concern. It would cost a 1st for Sergachev but Sergachev will only get better. McDonagh will start regressing in 2 years. And he has a complete NTC for 5/6 years.
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 45
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Probably not, but there's virtually no risk of that. I can't see offer sheet happening during this covid time. The threat is minimal.

And even if they did get an offer, they'd just match it outright. They can be 10% over the cap during the offseason if need be.


Okay, so lets play this out logically, they match the offer sheets, are 10% over the cap, and then have to move say 7 or 8 million. Wonder who they would move, and i wonder how much other teams would be willing to help them out.
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 46
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Tampa will have to pay to move McDonagh. They have no leverage to move him for assets with Sergachev, Cirelli, and Cernak all unsigned with less than $3M in cap space.


I agree that's the case with Johnson, but not with McDonagh. The guy is still a solid top pair D in many teams and that contract isn't too bad.

Besides it's not like McDonagh is moving with that full NTC of his anyway.
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24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 47
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Okay, so lets play this out logically, they match the offer sheets, are 10% over the cap, and then have to move say 7 or 8 million. Wonder who they would move, and i wonder how much other teams would be willing to help them out.


Their situation is dire, but that was kind of expected. They'll manage.
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 52
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Their situation is dire, but that was kind of expected. They'll manage.


How?

If eating money on a McDonagh trade is so outrageous, then how else would they get under the cap?
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 55
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How?

If eating money on a McDonagh trade is so outrageous, then how else would they get under the cap?


That's very much dependent on whether the players with full NTCs agree to be traded or not. McDonagh also belongs to this list.
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 56
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That's very much dependent on whether the players with full NTCs agree to be traded or not. McDonagh also belongs to this list.


Okay, so lets talk some hypotheticals. Seems like Tyler Johnson will be too hard to move. Who else? Point? Hedman? Palat? Stamkos? Money has to come from somewhere.
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 57
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Okay, so lets talk some hypotheticals. Seems like Tyler Johnson will be too hard to move. Who else? Point? Hedman? Palat? Stamkos? Money has to come from somewhere.


Gourde and Killorn are next in line. They'll clear up to $10M.
24 nov. 2020 à 10 h 59
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Okay, so lets play this out logically, they match the offer sheets, are 10% over the cap, and then have to move say 7 or 8 million. Wonder who they would move, and i wonder how much other teams would be willing to help them out.


Let's be real. They're already in this position. Teams know that they need to move 7 or 8 million whether they wait to sign the RFAs or not.
24 nov. 2020 à 11 h 0
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Gourde and Killorn are next in line. They'll clear up to $10M.


Killorn is a pretty solid player, but at 31, I’m not sure how eager teams will be. Gourde will be the same thing as Sergachev. Teams will be happy to take him if theres retention.
24 nov. 2020 à 11 h 0
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Okay, so lets talk some hypotheticals. Seems like Tyler Johnson will be too hard to move. Who else? Point? Hedman? Palat? Stamkos? Money has to come from somewhere.


What's the logic behind moving Point to keep Cirelli or Sergachev? Edmonton can't sign Bear, better trade McDavid.
 
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