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Créé par: Cardiak
Équipe: 2020-21 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 17 nov. 2020
Publié: 17 nov. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
CAR
  1. Zibanejad, Mika
Détails additionnels:
mika comes extended 7x8
2.
CAR
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
TOR
  1. McGinn, Brock
Détails additionnels:
odd man out
Rachats de contrats
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $78 750 655 $1 367 073 $3 707 500 $2 749 345 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 4
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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2 150 000 $2 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 2
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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763 333 $763 333 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
C, AD
RFA - 1

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17 nov. 2020 à 14 h 41
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Horrible trade for the canes. Rangers should take this and run.
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17 nov. 2020 à 14 h 43
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Rangers would say no due too lack of centers
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17 nov. 2020 à 14 h 46
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Horrible trade for the canes. Rangers should take this and run.


hmm i thought so. hard to tell the value of mika. what would the rangers have to add roughly for it to be fair. krastov? Miller? lundkist? chytil?
17 nov. 2020 à 14 h 49
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hmm i thought so. hard to tell the value of mika. what would the rangers have to add roughly for it to be fair. krastov? Miller? lundkist? chytil?


I think the canes just need to remove slavin from any trade. He is by far the canes best Dman. In my opinion he is the 2nd best Dman in the league.

Don’t see a trade that works here.
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17 nov. 2020 à 14 h 53
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I think the canes just need to remove slavin from any trade. He is by far the canes best Dman. In my opinion he is the 2nd best Dman in the league.

Don’t see a trade that works here.

Second best dman is a large stretch
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17 nov. 2020 à 14 h 54
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Quoting: Hurricanes73
hmm i thought so. hard to tell the value of mika. what would the rangers have to add roughly for it to be fair. krastov? Miller? lundkist? chytil?

it would be a B level prospect and a 3rd plus rounder. Rangers wouldn’t do it anyway nor Mika would waive to Carolina so doesn’t work each way
17 nov. 2020 à 15 h 6
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Quoting: Rino911
Second best dman is a large stretch


L A R G E
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17 nov. 2020 à 15 h 24
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Horrible trade for the canes. Rangers should take this and run.


i can't tell if you are serious or not here...
17 nov. 2020 à 15 h 31
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
i can't tell if you are serious or not here...


100% serious. Rangers probably don’t run with it due to lack of centre depth. In a vacuum rangers win this trade and it’s not even close.
17 nov. 2020 à 15 h 37
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100% serious. Rangers probably don’t run with it due to lack of centre depth. In a vacuum rangers win this trade and it’s not even close.


give me some justification here.
i fail to see how a LD gets traded straight up for a 1C coming off of a year where he netted 41 in 57 - and the team getting the LD is a clear winner?
Slavin is a real nice player, but come on...

then you get some clueless saying the Rangers need to add one of their top prospects?!
send me some of that stuff you are smoking...
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17 nov. 2020 à 16 h 35
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Value-wise Mika and Slavin have had rougly equal monetary value over the last 3 seasons (Mika = 41.6 mil, Slavin 40.6 mil). That's using Evolving Wild's $/xSPAR figures with their positional adjustment.

That being said, Mika logged 1100 less mins than Slavin over that span, making his /60 value considerably higher. There's not much question that Mika is the more valuable player on the ice when you factor in that with the position.

I don't think the Rangers or the Canes do it. They can't really afford to weaken an already super weak C position and Canes frankly don't need another C.

If Mika's going to be traded it's probably going to be to a 3rd team as part of an Eichel package.
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17 nov. 2020 à 18 h 31
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The canes are not trading Slavin for just about anyone, he is truly pretty much u touchable
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17 nov. 2020 à 23 h 45
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
give me some justification here.
i fail to see how a LD gets traded straight up for a 1C coming off of a year where he netted 41 in 57 - and the team getting the LD is a clear winner?
Slavin is a real nice player, but come on...

then you get some clueless saying the Rangers need to add one of their top prospects?!
send me some of that stuff you are smoking...


Quoting: Sagecoll
Value-wise Mika and Slavin have had rougly equal monetary value over the last 3 seasons (Mika = 41.6 mil, Slavin 40.6 mil). That's using Evolving Wild's $/xSPAR figures with their positional adjustment.

That being said, Mika logged 1100 less mins than Slavin over that span, making his /60 value considerably higher. There's not much question that Mika is the more valuable player on the ice when you factor in that with the position.

I don't think the Rangers or the Canes do it. They can't really afford to weaken an already super weak C position and Canes frankly don't need another C.

If Mika's going to be traded it's probably going to be to a 3rd team as part of an Eichel package.


Agreed. The only person on the Canes I would give up Mika for (and it would have to be a package to get Mika with him in it) would be Necas.
18 nov. 2020 à 9 h 28
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Quoting: Rino911
Second best dman is a large stretch


Not as much of a stretch as you think
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18 nov. 2020 à 9 h 37
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
give me some justification here.
i fail to see how a LD gets traded straight up for a 1C coming off of a year where he netted 41 in 57 - and the team getting the LD is a clear winner?
Slavin is a real nice player, but come on...

then you get some clueless saying the Rangers need to add one of their top prospects?!
send me some of that stuff you are smoking...


i fail to see how a C gets traded straight up for a 1LD coming off of a year where he had 30 assists in 68 and was a +30 - and the team getting the 1LD isn't a clear winner?
Mika is a real nice player, but come on...
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18 nov. 2020 à 10 h 26
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Quoting: oliwer_smashki
i fail to see how a C gets traded straight up for a 1LD coming off of a year where he had 30 assists in 68 and was a +30 - and the team getting the 1LD isn't a clear winner?
Mika is a real nice player, but come on...


in general left shot defensemen are much easier to come by and replace over 1st line centers - if he was right shot and/or played the right side this would be a bit more believable.
i'm not saying the basis of the trade is off, all i am saying is that there are no clear winners/losers in this trade.
it is just my opinion that if a team is trading a left shot dman for a number 1 center - more needs to be added, unless your last name is Hedman.
19 nov. 2020 à 11 h 30
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Quoting: Rino911
Second best dman is a large stretch


Hedman is better, I can think of no one else who is outright better. Probably 5 or 6 guys that are debatable.
19 nov. 2020 à 12 h 0
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
in general left shot defensemen are much easier to come by and replace over 1st line centers - if he was right shot and/or played the right side this would be a bit more believable.
i'm not saying the basis of the trade is off, all i am saying is that there are no clear winners/losers in this trade.
it is just my opinion that if a team is trading a left shot dman for a number 1 center - more needs to be added, unless your last name is Hedman.


Ahhhh... I see. When Dougie is hurt Slavin slides over onto the right side. It is his off side, but he plays it often. That's part of why he is so good, because he can play both sides and is elite at both.
19 nov. 2020 à 14 h 1
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Hedman is better, I can think of no one else who is outright better. Probably 5 or 6 guys that are debatable.


Josi, Carlson are just two that are far better
19 nov. 2020 à 14 h 8
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Quoting: Rino911
Josi, Carlson are just two that are far better


Lol, Josi is one of the debatable ones, Carlson isn’t close. Slavin’s defensive game is highly underrated. The fact that he plays well in all three zones is what makes him so good.
19 nov. 2020 à 14 h 13
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Value-wise Mika and Slavin have had rougly equal monetary value over the last 3 seasons (Mika = 41.6 mil, Slavin 40.6 mil). That's using Evolving Wild's $/xSPAR figures with their positional adjustment.

That being said, Mika logged 1100 less mins than Slavin over that span, making his /60 value considerably higher. There's not much question that Mika is the more valuable player on the ice when you factor in that with the position.

I don't think the Rangers or the Canes do it. They can't really afford to weaken an already super weak C position and Canes frankly don't need another C.

If Mika's going to be traded it's probably going to be to a 3rd team as part of an Eichel package.


Dmen make less than forwards. Centre is for sure a more valuable position but slavin is in a different echelon.
 
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