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Créé par: Gaetsn

Équipe: 2020-21 Flames de Calgary

Date de création initiale: 12 nov. 2020

Publié: 12 nov. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

I know this messes up the expansion draft as you would most likely protect debrusk, but if lucic waives his NMC then this could be the flames in 2021.

Protected
JG
SM
MT
EL
JD
MB
ML (NMC)
(AM88 if lucic waives NMC)

MG
RA
CT
(valimaki exempted)

JM (NMC)

Most likely leaves for Seattle
Bennet
Kylington
Rittich (who I think will be selected)

Thoughts?

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Kylington, Oliver		2	850 000 $
DeBrusk, Jake		4	4 000 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Mantha, Ryan		1	1 000 000 $

Transactions

CGY

DeBrusk, Jake [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (BOS)

BOS

Hanifin, Noah

Rachats de contrats

Troy Brouwer: 1 500 000 $
Michael Stone: 1 166 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	73 264 166 $	0 $	457 500 $	8 235 834 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Gaudreau, Johnny 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Monahan, Sean 6 375 000 $6 375 000 $ C, AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 3	Lindholm, Elias 4 850 000 $4 850 000 $ C, AD UFA - 4
DeBrusk, Jake 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Backlund, Mikael 5 350 000 $5 350 000 $ C NTC UFA - 4	Tkachuk, Matthew 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Mangiapane, Andrew 2 425 000 $2 425 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Bennett, Sam 2 550 000 $2 550 000 $ C UFA - 1	Dubé, Dillon 778 333 $778 333 $ (32 500 $$32K) AG, AD, C RFA - 1
Lucic, Milan 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 3	Ryan, Derek 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Leivo, Josh 875 000 $875 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Giordano, Mark 3 375 000 $3 375 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Andersson, Rasmus 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DD UFA - 6	Markström, Jacob 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ G NMC UFA - 6
Välimäki, Juuso 894 166 $894 166 $ (425 000 $$425K) DG RFA - 1	Tanev, Christopher 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 4	Rittich, David 1 375 000 $1 375 000 $ G UFA - 1
Kylington, Oliver 850 000 $850 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Mantha, Ryan 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD UFA

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Nesterov, Nikita 700 000 $700 000 $ DG UFA - 1
Nordström, Joakim 700 000 $700 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Simon, Dominik 700 000 $700 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Fair or not?

12 nov. 2020 à 15 h 6

az27042007

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I'm pretty sure if flames trade Hannifin they want a cheap Rd. I think they want Brandon carlo more than Jake debrusk.
I think Hannifin and a 2nd for jake debrusk and Brandon carlo. Idk if this is fair though.

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12 nov. 2020 à 15 h 6

Bcarlo25

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4 years takes debrusk right to UFA without buying out any years, so that’s not going to work. I think the Bruins accept the deal though

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12 nov. 2020 à 15 h 7

Bcarlo25

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Quoting: az27042007

And the bruins would want tkachuk instead of hanifin, but lets stay on planet earth.

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12 nov. 2020 à 15 h 8

az27042007

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

And the bruins would want tkachuk instead of hanifin, but lets stay on planet earth.

I totally agree.

12 nov. 2020 à 15 h 8

imawesome

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

And the bruins would want tkachuk instead of hanifin, but lets stay on planet earth.

Says the person who's username is Brandon Carlo

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12 nov. 2020 à 15 h 9

Bcarlo25

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Quoting: imawesome

Says the person who's username is Brandon Carlo

Carlo is better than hanifin. He’s cheaper than hanifin. He’s younger than hanifin. No, he and debrusk aren’t part of a package to get hanifin. That’s insanity.

12 nov. 2020 à 15 h 14

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

Carlo is better than hanifin. He’s cheaper than hanifin. He’s younger than hanifin. No, he and debrusk aren’t part of a package to get hanifin. That’s insanity.

The only thing in this sentence that was actually correct was Carlo is cheaper than Hanifin.
Carlo is 2 months older than Hanifin and is about on par with Hanifin skill wise. Carlo is a lot better defensively but much worse offensively.

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12 nov. 2020 à 15 h 18

az27042007

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Modifié 12 nov. 2020 à 15 h 24

Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

The only thing in this sentence that was actually correct was Carlo is cheaper than Hanifin.
Carlo is 2 months older than Hanifin and is about on par with Hanifin skill-wise. Carlo is a lot better defensively but much worse offensively.

Carlo isn't even that much better than Hanifin defensively and Hanifin is a ofd.
Carlo is also 2 inches taller so it gives an advantage
NHL 21 rates Noah Hanifin as an 84 and Brandon Carlo as an 82

12 nov. 2020 à 15 h 34

Ansabch12

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Quoting: az27042007

Carlo isn't even that much better than Hanifin defensively and Hanifin is a ofd.
Carlo is also 2 inches taller so it gives an advantage
NHL 21 rates Noah Hanifin as an 84 and Brandon Carlo as an 82

Ok im just gonna stop you right there, if you're using NHL21 as proof in this argument you already lost the argument.

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12 nov. 2020 à 15 h 39

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bhavikp27

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Quoting: az27042007

Carlo isn't even that much better than Hanifin defensively and Hanifin is a ofd.
Carlo is also 2 inches taller so it gives an advantage
NHL 21 rates Noah Hanifin as an 84 and Brandon Carlo as an 82

did you just use an overall of a mediocre video game to tell us how good a national hockey league player is?

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12 nov. 2020 à 15 h 51

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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double post

12 nov. 2020 à 15 h 51

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: bhavikp27

did you just use an overall of a mediocre video game to tell us how good a national hockey league player is?

Ok I am aware that he used a really bad comparison system so ill make up for it here.
Hanifin vs Carlo over this year in RAPM:

Hanifin vs Carlo over the last 3 years in RAPM:

Hanifin vs Carlo in GAR this year:

Hanifin vs Carlo in xGAR this year:

12 nov. 2020 à 16 h 29

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Bcarlo25

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Huh. Right you are. For some reason i thought they were a draft apart.

But nah, Carlo is better at playing hockey.

12 nov. 2020 à 16 h 30

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Bcarlo25

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Ok I am aware that he used a really bad comparison system so ill make up for it here.
Hanifin vs Carlo over this year in RAPM:

Hanifin vs Carlo over the last 3 years in RAPM:

Hanifin vs Carlo in GAR this year:

Hanifin vs Carlo in xGAR this year:

This is a waste of HTML. It’s nothing. It’s useless.

It is a crutch for the weak minded and unimaginative that are either too lazy, unsure of themselves, or cowardly to dare to have their own opinion, or a spine.

12 nov. 2020 à 16 h 30

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Bcarlo25

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Quoting: bhavikp27

did you just use an overall of a mediocre video game to tell us how good a national hockey league player is?

I could have told you the stupid chart is coming next, but he beat me to it.

12 nov. 2020 à 16 h 44

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Modifié 12 nov. 2020 à 16 h 49

Quoting: Bcarlo25

What? Did you just call me lazy for actually going and doing research? I am merely showing stats, they are by no means the final answer, but they also arent wrong. Ignoring them like you are is like believing the earth is flat because the bible says so even though science says otherwise.

What a primitive point of view

12 nov. 2020 à 17 h 6

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Bcarlo25

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

It’s an attempt to make something subjective objective. The charts are inherently lazy or cowardly. Has to be one.

12 nov. 2020 à 17 h 13

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BlastyRocks

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

It’s an attempt to make something subjective objective. The charts are inherently lazy or cowardly. Has to be one.

Wow - just wow

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12 nov. 2020 à 17 h 33

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bhavikp27

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Ok I am aware that he used a really bad comparison system so ill make up for it here.

Hanifin is better offensively and has the edge all-around but Carlo is a defensive dman and he's really good defensively/on the PK. This one is close imo, I'm taking Carlo because I prefer players who are better defensively. But the NHL21 argument was garbage.

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12 nov. 2020 à 17 h 42

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: bhavikp27

I completely agree with your analysis and have no issues eith your view point. I think it is dependent on twam needs though. With Andersson and Tanev a defensive RD is less needed for Calgary whereas with Gio's regression having the offensive upside of Hanifin to help shelter both Valimaki and Kylington is very nice

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