This Joel Armia Deal is a Perfect No-Brainer Win-Win for the Sharks and Habs

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Créé par: CheechYou

Équipe: 2020-21 Sharks de San Jose

Date de création initiale: 18 oct. 2020

Publié: 19 oct. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Protections

F: couture meier labanc hertl donato kellman kane
D: simek vlasic karlsson
G: jones

Burns selected by SEA.

The Hamonic signing allows for Travis to play on a west-coast team for a year in a prove-it deal to have a good season under his belt and prove he's worth 3-4mil for a team like VAN/SEA/EDM/CLG next year. It allows for a very, very good addition to the Sharks to solidify their bottom-pairing and overall d-corps and along with Armia and Handemark, bring in three impactful depth guys to give the locker-room some Ward/Martin/Donskoi-esque confidence for a cup run similar to 2016's bounceback after 2015.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Hamonic, Travis		1	2 000 000 $

Transactions

SJS

Armia, Joel

Détails additionnels:

If MTL is unable to move out both Weal and Byron, which is a fair possibility, the team won't have the luxury of having Armia on the 4th line. It would be a great luxury to have him there, but this deal has Gamby, a former 2nd round pick, having a fresh start in MTL and very much able to fill in for Armia's place on the 4th line as a hungry young big-bodied guy with skill looking to find a spot in the NHL. Plus a 3rd rounder for an expiring contract, one who is all but guaranteed to walk away for nothing at season's end.

If there aren't takers for Weal and Byron, MTL would be wise to have an able guy in Gambrell take Armia's place on the 4th line especially since both guys have very similar skillsets, but Gamby is younger, more cost-effective, and is retained by MTL, and to also get back a 3rd rounder. Surely this is a better scenario than attaching a 3rd rounder as a sweetener for OTT/DET to take on Byron and another one for Kulak/Weal -- not necessarily only because of their value and/or contracts, but also because of the extremely tight budgets both in limited salary financially and in cap space for teams in this season.

MTL

Gambrell, Dylan
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (SJS)

Détails additionnels:

Jumbo leaving and the message with which he leaves at -- "I want to win a stanley cup" -- surely stings for SJ, especially in a context where Wilson has disagreed and delusionally thinks his roster is still cup-competitive . The locker-room needs a decent reinforcement or shake-up before the season if they're going to go in it with any confidence about themselves.

Armia is a big-bodied guy with skill who desperately fills a RW-need for SJ and together can form a too-sweet all-Swede 3rd like with Sorensen and Kellman/Handemark. Sharks have the cap-space to fill him in on an expiring contract, and have a good chance to re-sign him with good play during the season. The price is worth paying here as Gamby hasn't fit in and can use a change of scenery and for the Sharks who need their 1st and 2nd rounders for top-end talent, parting with Gamby plus a 3rd -- as this is Armia's market value -- is easier to part with than a 2nd alone.

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FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	74 264 167 $	0 $	345 000 $	7 235 833 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kane, Evander 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 5	Couture, Logan 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 7	Meier, Timo 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3
Donato, Ryan 1 900 000 $1 900 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 1	Hertl, Tomas 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Labanc, Kevin 4 725 000 $4 725 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4
Sörensen, Marcus 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Händemark, Fredrik 792 500 $792 500 $ (132 500 $$132K) C UFA - 1	Armia, Joel 2 600 000 $2 600 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Nieto, Matt 700 000 $700 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Marleau, Patrick 700 000 $700 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1	Noesen, Stefan 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ DG/DD NMC UFA - 6	Karlsson, Erik 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 7	Jones, Martin 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 4
Simek, Radim 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 4	Burns, Brent 5 280 000 $5 280 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 5	Dubnyk, Devan 2 166 667 $2 166 667 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Ferraro, Mario 925 000 $925 000 $ (212 500 $$212K) DG UFA - 2	Hamonic, Travis 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Middleton, Jake 725 000 $725 000 $ DG UFA - 2
Suomela, Antti 700 000 $700 000 $ C UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Kane, E.		Hertl, T.		Labanc, K.
	Couture, L.		Karlsson, E.

Avantage numérique 2
Sörensen, M.		Meier, T.		Donato, R.
	Marleau, P.		Burns, B.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Couture, L.	Noesen, S.
	Vlasic, M.	Karlsson, E.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Nieto, M.	Armia, J.
	Simek, R.	Hamonic, T.

19 oct. 2020 à 4 h 0

#26

bunnymcfoo

oh how i suffer

Rejoint: févr. 2019

Messages: 852

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Quoting: Jexus

Why are you even a sharks fan..? You sound like a 7year old who just dropped all your sweets. My god, grow up before you get on the internet “LOLOLOL” who does that if not a small whingeing child?

I'm a Sharks fan because I love hockey and I love the entire Sharks organization - honestly, you don't get that tattoo if you don't love the Sharks - but I guess that's all moot or invalidated or whatever because I'm not blind to the flaws in our organization.

Look, we've had a phenomenal run the last 16 years, but eventually you have to stop and restock your pipeline. You simply cannot kick that can down the road forever, and I'd much rather suck for 3 seasons and come away with some dynamic prospects, potentially a couple of high 1st round difference makers, and a deeper pool than we've had in basically forever, than end up in an endless rebuild like Detroit.

19 oct. 2020 à 4 h 7

#27

bunnymcfoo

oh how i suffer

Rejoint: févr. 2019

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Quoting: Jexus

Its not a fair trade for the Habs. Gambrell is barely an NHLer and really shouldnt be anywhere near nhl ice.

Yeaaaah, I have a lot of fondness for Gambrell based entirely on his time with the Barracuda, but 11 points in 50 NHL games isn't a great look. He might prove us all wrong this season and/or he might do better with a change of scenery, but he has definitely not lived up to potential he showed in the AHL. It's a real shame, but at this point it is what it is, you know?

19 oct. 2020 à 8 h 1

#28

Bigshame

BergDaMan

Rejoint: juill. 2020

Messages: 800

Mentions "j'aime": 232

It seems like everyone is forgetting about Byron or expecting him to just be injured all season. I personally think he’s our best 3rw option with KK and toffoli.
Lekhonen Evans Armia will be dynamite on the 4th line. Acting like we’re doing Armia a disservice by putting him on the 4th line is ignoring the fact that if not him someone else. I would post my lines as is
Drouin Suzuki Anderson
Tatar Danault Gallagher
Byron KK Toffoli
Lekhonen Evans/Peohling Armia
Too 3 lines are very equal getting around the same ice time depending on who is rolling on any given night and 4th line gets 10-12 mins with pk duties

Kotkaniemi15 a aimé ceci.

19 oct. 2020 à 15 h 29

#29

jfrojelin

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Rejoint: juin 2020

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Quoting: Campabee

Not to knit pick but Armia is from Finnland not Sweden. Also Armia will likely be on the 3rd line with Tatar and Danault or Kotkaniemi as the center. Most likely lineup is

Drouin-Suzuki-anderson
Taffoli-Danault/Kotkaniemi-Gallagher
Tatar-Danault/Kotkaniemi-Armia
Byron-Evans-Lehkonen

I just don't see Montreal making that deal.

Tatar is much better than Anderson, it would make no sense to play Tatar in the bottom 6 in a contract year when all that has done in the past has pissed off Danault and Domi.

19 oct. 2020 à 16 h 29

#30

Campabee

Rejoint: nov. 2018

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Quoting: jfrojelin

Tatar is much better than Anderson, it would make no sense to play Tatar in the bottom 6 in a contract year when all that has done in the past has pissed off Danault and Domi.

But Tatar and Danault have chemistry and they definitely wouldn't be considered a 3rd line

20 oct. 2020 à 1 h 48

#31

Revans292

Rejoint: oct. 2020

Messages: 355

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Quoting: Jexus

A big issue at camp last year was there was no competition. Doug wants to see the players locked in from day one. In fact many players cited a bad camp as a reason for the bad year (logan, jones and Labanc). Jumbo carries a laid back “let it go” personality and I think the Sharks took it too seriously. I am pleased that he is no longer a shark. We now have proper competition for 3C and a top six position which Donato will likely win but who knows, Chmelevski or Blichfeld could take those spots. I dont think the season is as doom and gloom as many think it will be.

I agree with you.... still I wouldn’t mind picking up a guy like Duclair or Athanasiou to help our competition and depth.
Last year we were 2 middle\top 6 wings short of a competitive roster and it hurt us when none of the kids stepped up. This year I’d rather have a little more depth with the kids making it real hard to send down rather then another year with those kids making it real hard to justify giving them spots in the lineup.
This logic also helps when we have an injury or two, rather than scrambling for someone to fill a spot and ending up with an incapable player in our top 9 we get a kid who’s hungry to prove himself.

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