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15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 20
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Bring back Skjei-Pionk!!!!!
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15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 22
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Fair trade, like it both ways.
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15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 22
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Not. Even. Close.
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 23
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Not. Even. Close.


From which pov?
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 24
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Laughable for Jets
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15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 26
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From which pov?


Well, ok, I'm exaderating, it is ok, but the jets would want more. Maybe Niederreiter and Necas have more value than I think. Add a first maybe, and it's good.
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15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 26
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Laughable for Jets


Dunno about that...solid TOP6 F with elite ceiling, a TOP4 D and a mid-6 winger...I dunno if they can get any better at this time...
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 26
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Laughable for Jets


Quoting: Saskleaf
Not. Even. Close.


Under estimating necas, he is really good. Will be a one or two C in a year or two.

I’ll admit they probably don’t want skjei. I don’t see a better fit for a trade with the canes though.
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15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 27
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Well, ok, I'm exaderating, it is ok, but the jets would want more. Maybe Niederreiter and Necas have more value than I think. Add a first maybe, and it's good.


Underestimating necas, His value is close to nylander.
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 28
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Well, ok, I'm exaderating, it is ok, but the jets would want more. Maybe Niederreiter and Necas have more value than I think. Add a first maybe, and it's good.


Dunno if it's favorable for the Canes then. Necas is improving in a sound rate and that ELC is still running for two more years.
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 28
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Underestimating necas, His value is close to nylander.


Now Now, really, how much value does he have.
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 29
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Dunno if it's favorable for the Canes then. Necas is improving in a sound rate and that ELC is still running for two more years.


How bout a Liane and Niku for Pesce and Necas then?
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 29
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Now Now, really, how much value does he have.


Think Nick Suzuki. I'd say Necas is equivalent to that OR a step up.
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 30
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Now Now, really, how much value does he have.


Nylander for necas and a 2nd or a prospect. Watch necas is play. He is 21 and drives a line.

Should blossom into a 60-80 point centre.
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 30
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Dunno about that...solid TOP6 F with elite ceiling, a TOP4 D and a mid-6 winger...I dunno if they can get any better at this time...


There's a lot of salary and term going back to WPG though, and I don't know how attractive that would be to them. I don't think it's far off, but I do think that there needs to be at least a 1st round pick going to WPG on top of those pieces.

And I'm not sure that Perrault gets attached to a Laine trade as it would only bring down his value.
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 30
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How bout a Liane and Niku for Pesce and Necas then?


Jets don't really need Pesce. They need a puck moving LHD. Skjei fits the bill better.
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15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 30
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Think Nick Suzuki. I'd say Necas is equivalent to that OR a step up.

I would say a step up. Little better.
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15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 31
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Nylander for necas and a 2nd or a prospect. Watch necas is play. He is 21 and drives a line.

Should blossom into a 60-80 point centre.


Oh hmm, I had no idea he was that good.
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 31
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Think Nick Suzuki. I'd say Necas is equivalent to that OR a step up.


Oh ok.
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 32
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There's a lot of salary and term going back to WPG though, and I don't know how attractive that would be to them. I don't think it's far off, but I do think that there needs to be at least a 1st round pick going to WPG on top of those pieces.

And I'm not sure that Perrault gets attached to a Laine trade as it would only bring down his value.


I added Perreault because it makes the actual cap even for both teams. Canes including multiyear assets is essential since they need all the money they can get to re-sign Laine, Svechnikov and Hamilton. Jets don't have big money signings coming for the next year with the exception of Pionk, so they technically can take those contracts in.

A first is probably ok to even out the value, but I think WPG needs to add something...not much though.
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 33
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I would say a step up. Little better.


I agree
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 35
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Dunno if it's favorable for the Canes then. Necas is improving in a sound rate and that ELC is still running for two more years.


How about Laine 50% retained and Niku for necas and bean
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 37
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How about Laine 50% retained and Niku for necas bean and


Dunno if Canes can afford that. As I said earlier:

Quoting: justaBoss
I added Perreault because it makes the actual cap even for both teams. Canes including multiyear assets is essential since they need all the money they can get to re-sign Laine, Svechnikov and Hamilton. Jets don't have big money signings coming for the next year with the exception of Pionk, so they technically can take those contracts in.

A first is probably ok to even out the value, but I think WPG needs to add something...not much though.


There's a reason why players like Skjei and Niederreiter must be added...
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 37
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Laine doesn’t make sense for us with his large assumed ask, Svech, and Hamilton. Our depth would go to crap.

Necas is too valuable to give up. He will be a star as soon as next year.
15 oct. 2020 à 21 h 39
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Laine doesn’t make sense for us with his large assumed ask, Svech, and Hamilton. Our depth would go to crap.

Necas is too valuable to give up. He will be a star as soon as next year.


Ehh, I dunno about that. Your team has a great top line but there's a cliff behind 'em. I mean...

Laine-Aho-Teräväinen
Foegele-Trocheck-Svechnikov

...as your future TOP6 is something worth investing in if you ask me...
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