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Blockbuster part 2

Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 14 oct. 2020
Publié: 14 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Part 1 was the McDonagh/Miller trade
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 500 000 $
22 500 000 $
45 500 000 $
Transactions
TBL
  1. Henriksson, Karl [Liste de réserve]
  2. Jones, Zachary [Liste de réserve]
  3. Strome, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
2nd becomes 1st if Rangers makes the finals and Stamkos plays in the half the games
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 083 133 $0 $11 212 500 $416 867 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AD
RFA - 2
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11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
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UFA - 6
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 4
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AD
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
G
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
DG
RFA - 3
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
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4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
DG/DD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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14 oct. 2020 à 10 h 35
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yea Stamkos starts with Zibanejad and 1st. try again
14 oct. 2020 à 10 h 37
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Rangers can't do it because of bonus overages.
14 oct. 2020 à 10 h 37
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Quoting: Mwasylko34
yea Stamkos starts with Zibanejad and 1st. try again


not when they have no more leverage. I guarantee you if Schmidt got a 3rd, Stamkos would only get a cheap roster player, a couple of good potential prospects and a 2nd. Maybe a 1st if the team is guaranteed to make it far because theyre stacked
14 oct. 2020 à 10 h 38
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Quoting: Mwasylko34
yea Stamkos starts with Zibanejad and 1st. try again


Rangers wouldn't do Zibanejad for Stamkos straight up.
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Rangers can't do it because of bonus overages.


what happens if you trade Smith?
14 oct. 2020 à 10 h 39
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not when they have no more leverage. I guarantee you if Schmidt got a 3rd, Stamkos would only get a cheap roster player, a couple of good potential prospects and a 2nd. Maybe a 1st if the team is guaranteed to make it far because theyre stacked


You cannot be comparing Schmidt and Stamkos rn. There is no comparison. Schmidt is a good top 4, Stamkos is an elite player. Tampa is not that dumb to trade him for garbage. They would get a top line player for cheaper no way Stamkos gets less than that
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what happens if you trade Smith?


Still not enough.
14 oct. 2020 à 10 h 40
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Rangers wouldn't do Zibanejad for Stamkos straight up.


then they dont get him
14 oct. 2020 à 10 h 42
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You cannot be comparing Schmidt and Stamkos rn. There is no comparison. Schmidt is a good top 4, Stamkos is an elite player. Tampa is not that dumb to trade him for garbage. They would get a top line player for cheaper no way Stamkos gets less than that


thats why i told you Stamkos gets way more in my proposal. But they definitely wont get full value for him. Hes 30, been dealing with injuries, getting paid 8.5 mill and Tampa isnt exactly dealing from a position of leverages considering Stamkos can nix any trade. Theyll get assets for him but its not like Tampa can afford to take cap back for him. So, it will be for futures that are close to NHL ready
14 oct. 2020 à 10 h 44
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Pass, not a fan of giving up good young player to get an injury prone guy who when healthy is great but isn’t healthy very often
14 oct. 2020 à 10 h 52
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Stamkos with an ambulance thrown in........ No thanks, Tampa fleeced the rangers enough already.
14 oct. 2020 à 11 h 0
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Quoting: Mwasylko34
You cannot be comparing Schmidt and Stamkos rn. There is no comparison. Schmidt is a good top 4, Stamkos is an elite player. Tampa is not that dumb to trade him for garbage. They would get a top line player for cheaper no way Stamkos gets less than that


honest question, do you understand the situation Tampa is in right now?
if you did, you would realize that them shipping Stamkos out requires them to take minimal cap back so they can sign their RFA's.

Chytil and a 2nd gets it done.
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honest question, do you understand the situation Tampa is in right now?
if you did, you would realize that them shipping Stamkos out requires them to take minimal cap back so they can sign their RFA's.

Chytil and a 2nd gets it done.


agreed
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14 oct. 2020 à 11 h 5
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Quoting: Mwasylko34
You cannot be comparing Schmidt and Stamkos rn. There is no comparison. Schmidt is a good top 4, Stamkos is an elite player. Tampa is not that dumb to trade him for garbage. They would get a top line player for cheaper no way Stamkos gets less than that


Your right Schmidt is probably gonna make the whole season, Stamkos is lucky to get 60 games and thats including playoffs
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14 oct. 2020 à 13 h 19
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thats why i told you Stamkos gets way more in my proposal. But they definitely wont get full value for him. Hes 30, been dealing with injuries, getting paid 8.5 mill and Tampa isnt exactly dealing from a position of leverages considering Stamkos can nix any trade. Theyll get assets for him but its not like Tampa can afford to take cap back for him. So, it will be for futures that are close to NHL ready


I disagree, Stamkos is an elite 1C who's average like 95 points over an 82 game schedule over the past two seasons. If the Rangers want him, I'd say it costs Kakko + 1st.
14 oct. 2020 à 13 h 20
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Your right Schmidt is probably gonna make the whole season, Stamkos is lucky to get 60 games and thats including playoffs


Comparing Schmidt to Stamkos is ridiculous. Stamkos is an elite 1C. It's annoying seeing the trade proposals that land the Rangers a 1C where they give up a collection of nothing.
14 oct. 2020 à 17 h 51
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Comparing Schmidt to Stamkos is ridiculous. Stamkos is an elite 1C. It's annoying seeing the trade proposals that land the Rangers a 1C where they give up a collection of nothing.


It doesn't matter how many points he puts up u have to look at the facts.
1. Tampa in a very bad cap crunch where no one was willing to take a player for free. Which means they will have to get rid of good players or package them with pics
2. Stamkos should have the word fragile on his back because that's what he is, no one wants a player who is constantly injured.
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It doesn't matter how many points he puts up u have to look at the facts.
1. Tampa in a very bad cap crunch where no one was willing to take a player for free. Which means they will have to get rid of good players or package them with pics
2. Stamkos should have the word fragile on his back because that's what he is, no one wants a player who is constantly injured.


There are a lot of star players that have been constantly injured through their career that prove that comment to be false including Malkin and Crosby.

You can say what ever you'd like but all I see on this forum is Rangers trade proposals that land then 1Cs and they give up nothing and it's just annoying (Seguin, Matthews, Eichel, Barkov, Stamkos). Stamkos is an elite 90+ point player and is probably not going to be traded at all because he has a NMC and took an extreme discount to stay in Tampa (taxes). But even if he did, it won't be for this pathetic amount of assets, like really? Look at the proposal again and tell me that I'm wrong. It would be more like Kakko + 1st or Lundkvist, Kravtsov, 1st
15 oct. 2020 à 7 h 44
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
There are a lot of star players that have been constantly injured through their career that prove that comment to be false including Malkin and Crosby.

You can say what ever you'd like but all I see on this forum is Rangers trade proposals that land then 1Cs and they give up nothing and it's just annoying (Seguin, Matthews, Eichel, Barkov, Stamkos). Stamkos is an elite 90+ point player and is probably not going to be traded at all because he has a NMC and took an extreme discount to stay in Tampa (taxes). But even if he did, it won't be for this pathetic amount of assets, like really? Look at the proposal again and tell me that I'm wrong. It would be more like Kakko + 1st or Lundkvist, Kravtsov, 1st


I'm just gonna leave it at this the Rangers should not be looking for centers who are injury prone or over the age of 30 Stamkos immediately becomes the oldest forward on the team. They should not be giving up assets for one they should sign a UFA and focus on drafting centers because every other position is stacked. They won't be realistic Cup contenders for a few years, so Stamkos would be 32 at best. He would be exiting his prime just when the team would need him most. It just doesn't make sense to trade for Stamkos
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I'm just gonna leave it at this the Rangers should not be looking for centers who are injury prone or over the age of 30 Stamkos immediately becomes the oldest forward on the team. They should not be giving up assets for one they should sign a UFA and focus on drafting centers because every other position is stacked. They won't be realistic Cup contenders for a few years, so Stamkos would be 32 at best. He would be exiting his prime just when the team would need him most. It just doesn't make sense to trade for Stamkos


I'm not disagreeing with that. I don't think they should trade for him either.
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