Leafs Suddenly Have Too Many D

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Créé par: Leafs_Storm

Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 12 oct. 2020

Publié: 12 oct. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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I personally would have Engvall in the roster over Vesey, Simmonds, or Barabanov, but Engvall is currently waiver-exempt and I could see the Leafs wanting to keep Bogosian up with the team instead of waiving him (despite better options until another trade occurs.)

Ultimately, due to having Bogo, the Leafs now have a bottom pair spare defenseman, along with Rosen, Marincin, Sandin, and Liljegren. That's 11 players who could slot into at least the 3rd pair, which is why I can foresee a Holl trade. However, without seeing how Dermott fits on the right side next to Muzzin or Rielly yet, it does not provide me confidence to do that.

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RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Dermott, Travis	1	874 125 $
Anderson, Joey	2	775 000 $
Mikheyev, Ilya	1	1 000 000 $

Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Enfoui

Pierre Engvall: 175 000 $ (1 250 000 $)

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	81 326 408 $	0 $	0 $	173 592 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 4	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD UFA - 5
Mikheyev, Ilya 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 5	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 4
Robertson, Nicholas 821 667 $821 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 4	Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 3	Vesey, Jimmy 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Simmonds, Wayne 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG NTC UFA - 1	Spezza, Jason 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Barabanov, Alexander 925 000 $925 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 4	Holl, Justin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD NMC UFA - 4	Campbell, Jack 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ G UFA - 2
Lehtonen, Mikko 925 000 $925 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Dermott, Travis 874 125 $874 125 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Bogosian, Zach 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 1
Anderson, Joey 775 000 $775 000 $ AD RFA - 3

12 oct. 2020 à 15 h 17

Johnwill479

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Justin holl a top 4 guy? He’s a 3 paring guy at best even if Petro was his partner he still wouldn’t look good out there.

12 oct. 2020 à 15 h 19

Quarrelsomesneeze

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Quoting: Johnwill479

Justin holl a top 4 guy? He’s a 3 paring guy at best even if Petro was his partner he still wouldn’t look good out there.

He was a solid top 4 guys last year. He played on the shutdown pair with Muzz. He won't score too much but he can definitely lock it down.

12 oct. 2020 à 15 h 20

Quarrelsomesneeze

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I think Dermott and Mikheyev will get a bit more money but this looks pretty solid otherwise

12 oct. 2020 à 15 h 20

Leafs_Storm

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Quoting: Johnwill479

Justin holl a top 4 guy? He’s a 3 paring guy at best even if Petro was his partner he still wouldn’t look good out there.

His results next to Muzzin all season were pretty good. Their xGF and actual GF were really solid together. He's not a guy you want carrying a pair, which was clearly evidenced once Muzzin got injured in both the regular season and play-in, but as the complementary guy on the pair, he does a solid, steady job.

12 oct. 2020 à 15 h 21

TMLBRIAN

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Something I just noticed is that Korshkov currently has 11 pts in 12 games in the KHL. He will make an actual push for the Leafs also. Makes things even more complicated to work out!

As for D pairings - I assume it will be:

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Lehtonen
Dermott or Sandin - Bogosian or Holl

Maybe send Sandin down and either run 7 or alternate Dermott, Bogo and Holl every game, until their competence hierarchy becomes apparent.

12 oct. 2020 à 15 h 21

Leafs_Storm

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Quoting: Quarrelsomesneeze

I think Dermott and Mikheyev will get a bit more money but this looks pretty solid otherwise

$874,125 is Dermott's Qualifying Offer. I think the leafs are going to squeeze him hard, and a 1 year deal at the QO is probably the best outcome for both parties. Mikheyev I predict around $1.3M, but again, the Leafs are really going to squeeze him on that contract so I pushed for an even 1M so that the roster could take 2 spares instead of just 1.

12 oct. 2020 à 15 h 22

Laudan

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Quoting: Johnwill479

Justin holl a top 4 guy? He’s a 3 paring guy at best even if Petro was his partner he still wouldn’t look good out there.

Dont tell TML homers that...hes next Lidström, it just took him up to 28y of age to show the first sparks.....

12 oct. 2020 à 15 h 23

Leafs_Storm

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Quoting: TMLBRIAN

Korshkov and Engvall are in the AHL/KHL in this version of the roster, but I agree that Korshkov will be pushing for a roster spot this year. I want Lehtonen in the top 4, but I'm keeping it conservative on him until we see his game on a North American-sized ice sheet. I think both Sandin and Liljegren, as well as Engvall and Korshkov could start in the AHL/KHL just based on waiver eligibility, and wanting to see what they have in Simmonds, Vesey, Lehtonen, and Barabanov.

12 oct. 2020 à 15 h 25

Leafs_Storm

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Quoting: Laudan

Dont tell TML homers that...hes next Lidström, it just took him up to 28y of age to show the first sparks.....

He's a 4/5 guy, who should be on a bottom pair, but is a very solid as just a steady, complimentary piece with a better partner. His results next to Muzzin were solid all season, but with Muzzin hurt, the results expectedly dipped and he looked overmatched in a shutdown role without him. I think we've seen that they work together, and I don't see a need to change it unless somebody forces Keefe's hand, but I have no qualms with him in that role as long as healthy Muzzin is next to him.

12 oct. 2020 à 15 h 26

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Laudan

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Quoting: Leafs_Storm

Muzzin with his working horse attitude would make even you and me look good next to him....on NHL level that is.....

Holl is No6 D at best and 1M overpaid for the quality he brings, but at least you didnt trade him for a 3rd like TML homers usualy do....

Johnwill479 a aimé ceci.

12 oct. 2020 à 15 h 27

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leafs101

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Did you see how many guys got hurt last year on our blue line? You simply cannot have too many NHL level D, especially considering how cheap we are getting like half of them for

12 oct. 2020 à 20 h 18

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Leafs_Storm

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Quoting: Laudan

Clearly if you think that, you've never seen my Jack Johnson-esque ability to destroy a pairing, and that's in beer league. I think Holl would be a good 5D, he's big enough and competent enough to be at least a 5D. 4D is when the competition improves, he got lots of d-zone starts, and it was clear that with Muzzin he could handle it. When it was him and Dermott and he needed to carry more of the responsibility, they couldn't be a shutdown duo. 4/5D is i think accurate, but it would be nice if he wasn't making 2M a year.

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