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The TJ message

Créé par: NoDeke
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 10 oct. 2020
Publié: 10 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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The league is basically saying they have to payback I s he’s all this money! That ain’t gettin nothing until they are at the cap! That’s what I’m getting out of this. Wings could have, several teams could have snatched TJ. But they didn’t, cuz F U Tampa! You ain’t gettin out of this that easy!
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  1. Rask, Victor
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (SJS)
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  2. Paquette, Cédric
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10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 14
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No need to trade Foote to trade TJ. Retain 1 mil and add a 2nd
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10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 15
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Minnesota says no
10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 16
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Gourde, Johnson and McDonagh aren't waiving, After clearing waives there's no reason for Johnson to waive.
10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 17
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Gourde, Johnson and McDonagh aren't waiving, After clearing waives there's no reason for Johnson to waive.


If that’s the case. It’s a real sticky situation! Gunna lose their young guys cuz of this.
10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 18
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If that’s the case. It’s a real sticky situation! Gunna lose their young guys cuz of this.


Killorn and Palat could waive tho?
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10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 19
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Buffalo should have still picked him up, thats their best chance at landing a 2nd line winger
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10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 20
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Killorn and Palat could waive tho?


Ya and I feel they would actually have some value, right? At least not paying to shed them hopefully. They are unique players.
10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 20
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Quoting: NoDeke
If that’s the case. It’s a real sticky situation! Gunna lose their young guys cuz of this.


Killorn is the only likely candidate right now to get dealt, Unless Johnson agree's to waive to a lot more teams i don't see him going anywhere.
10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 21
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Buffalo should have still picked him up thats their best chance at landing a 2nd line winger


Exactly why the whole league is saying f u Tampa! You ain’t getting out of this easy! Pay me for him cuz you have to if that’s who your choosing to shed.
10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 21
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Killorn is the only likely candidate right now to get dealt, Unless Johnson agree's to waive to a lot more teams i don't see him going anywhere.


What do you think is the asking price for Cirelli
10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 22
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Killorn and Palat could waive tho?


Palat has a full NTC like Gourde and Johnson though. He's the least likely of the bunch to waive it.
10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 23
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
What do you think is the asking price for Cirelli


Not really sure he wont be cheap.
10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 27
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Not really sure he wont be cheap.


Do Zac Jones, Karl Henriksson and our 2021 1st get things started?
10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 30
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Not really sure he wont be cheap.


Trade wise a 1st and a medium prospect. Money wise I think around $5M is fine. If he’s staying with Tampa it will be less then what someone else will give.
10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 32
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Trade wise a 1st and a medium prospect. Money wise I think around $5M is fine. If he’s staying with Tampa it will be less then what someone else will give.


At least a 1st round pick and a very good prospect, And then something in the neighborhood of 5 x $5M i'd imagine.
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10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 41
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Given COVID I would expect 2 years of this .. JBB should just clean house of TJ and Gourde .. Palat is only 2 years and Killorn 3 .. they leave then and money for Point ... if Gourde doesn't go now we risk losing Coleman next year ...
10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 54
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Buffalo should have still picked him up, thats their best chance at landing a 2nd line winger

I agree, Johnson could easily be our #3 center, only 3 forwards had more goals and pts than he.
If nothing else, he would be a placeholder until Cozens is ready.
Maybe Adyms is have some fruitful conversations with Dadonov, Hoffman, Hall or other top performers.
Maybe he is close to signing one of them and is even willing to let Kahun walk.
I love the Staal trade, I love the trade to move for Peterka, but not getting Dubnyk when he is looking for a GK, really inconsequential free agents signing, drafting Quinn 8th OA when he was project at best 11th, passing on Johnson, overpaying Thompson, not giving Kahun a QO.
So far the negative far outweigh the pluses and this only four months into his GMship.
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Exactly why the whole league is saying f u Tampa! You ain’t getting out of this easy! Pay me for him cuz you have to if that’s who your choosing to shed.

But you do not want to spite your face by cutting off your nose either.
IDK how his offensive performance would translate to Buffalo, but based on last year he would be the Sabres #3 center now.
A spot they do not have filled as we speak.
IMO it was a mistake to pass on him.
But you could be correct, the league may be waiting for bigger bargains from the Bolts.
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10 oct. 2020 à 13 h 56
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Gourde,, McDonagh and Johnson don't waive
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10 oct. 2020 à 14 h 6
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
I agree, Johnson could easily be our #3 center, only 3 forwards had more goals and pts than he.
If nothing else, he would be a placeholder until Cozens is ready.
Maybe Adyms is have some fruitful conversations with Dadonov, Hoffman, Hall or other top performers.
Maybe he is close to signing one of them and is even willing to let Kahun walk.
I love the Staal trade, I love the trade to move for Peterka, but not getting Dubnyk when he is looking for a GK, really inconsequential free agents signing, drafting Quinn 8th OA when he was project at best 11th, passing on Johnson, overpaying Thompson, not giving Kahun a QO.
So far the negative far outweigh the pluses and this only four months into his GMship.

But you do not want to spite your face by cutting off your nose either.
IDK how his offensive performance would translate to Buffalo, but based on last year he would be the Sabres #3 center now.
A spot they do not have filled as we speak.
IMO it was a mistake to pass on him.
But you could be correct, the league may be waiting for bigger bargains from the Bolts.


Adams has talked to all the top RW free agents, but who knows how far they are. Ive heard Olofsson signing should be the next big news out of Buffalo
10 oct. 2020 à 14 h 38
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Kings decline, they don't need to take on additional salary or declining players
10 oct. 2020 à 15 h 20
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TJ did give a list of teams he'd be willing to go do. BriseBois needs to go back to each of those teams and ask...what would it take? Find the cheapest option and do it. Keep your talent even if it means a 1st rounder to move him. It'll be a late 1st anyway.
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