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Créé par: trickydick55

Équipe: 2020-21 Islanders de New York

Date de création initiale: 2 oct. 2020

Publié: 2 oct. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Kesler Trade- ANH is not a big market franshise and I see them wanting to shed salary for business purposes. Kesler is owed over 12 million over the next 2 years and I don't see ANH wanting to carry that for cap relief. in this instance, ANH is paying the Isles to take this contract.

Zetterberg Trade- this one is more complex. DET is def willing to take on salaries for futures. I believe JHS is a player Steve Y likes and would be willing to give him playing time in the NHL with quality players. I also believe that Leo is good fit here. when you are rebuilding, you need solid (but cheap) vets who provide a good locker room presence. the tricky part is ladd's contract. it has 3 years left, almost all signing bonus money and he is no longer an NHL capable player. the price here might be low, but I think MVS and JHS are good enough pieces to sweeten the deal enough.

if Johnny Boychuk becomes an LTIR candidate, the isles have enough room to sign hoffman, but I am okay with this roster. at some point they need Bellows or Wahlstrom to step up, so I am okay w leaving a roster spot open for them to compete for

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Aho, Sebastian	2	800 000 $
Barzal, Mathew	3	6 250 000 $
Pulock, Ryan	5	5 300 000 $
Toews, Devon	3	3 500 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Ryan, Bobby		2	975 000 $
Greene, Andy		1	975 000 $

Transactions

NYI

Kesler, Ryan
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (ANA)

ANA

Golyshev, Anatoly [Liste de réserve]
Hutton, Grant [Droits de RFA]
Pivonka, Jacob [Liste de réserve]

NYI

Zetterberg, Henrik
Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (DET)

Détails additionnels:

Might need some of Detriot's Garbage for Contract limit purposes

DET

Ho-Sang, Joshua [Droits de RFA]
Komarov, Leo (750 000 $ retained)
Ladd, Andrew
Vande Sompel, Mitch [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (NYI)

NYI

Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (DAL)

DAL

Leddy, Nick

Rachats de contrats

Rick DiPietro: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Leo Komarov: 750 000 $ (0%)

Enfoui

Thomas Hickey: 1 425 000 $ (2 500 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	76 963 333 $	0 $	750 000 $	4 536 667 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Lee, Anders 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG NTC UFA - 6	Barzal, Mathew 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ C, AD UFA - 3	Eberle, Jordan 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD NTC UFA - 4
Beauvillier, Anthony 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Nelson, Brock 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ C, AG NTC UFA - 5	Bailey, Josh 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG, C UFA - 4
Bellows, Kieffer 894 166 $894 166 $ (212 500 $$212K) AG, AD UFA - 1	Pageau, Jean-Gabriel 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C NTC UFA - 6	Ryan, Bobby 975 000 $975 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
	Cizikas, Casey 3 350 000 $3 350 000 $ C UFA - 1	Clutterbuck, Cal 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Dal Colle, Michael 700 000 $700 000 $ AG UFA - 1
Johnston, Ross 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Pelech, Adam 1 600 000 $1 600 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Pulock, Ryan 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Varlamov, Semyon 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G NTC UFA - 3
Toews, Devon 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DG UFA - 4	Mayfield, Scott 1 450 000 $1 450 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Sorokin, Ilya 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Aho, Sebastian 800 000 $800 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Dobson, Noah 894 167 $894 167 $ (537 500 $$538K) DD RFA - 2
Greene, Andy 975 000 $975 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Boychuk, Johnny 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Kesler, Ryan 6 875 000 $6 875 000 $ C, AD NMC UFA - 2
		Zetterberg, Henrik 6 083 333 $6 083 333 $ C UFA - 1

2 oct. 2020 à 17 h 28

redwingsfan04

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That’s no where close on the Detroit deal. You can keep Ladd and Komarov unless you’re willing to offer us something of value.

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2 oct. 2020 à 17 h 30

Jfstompers

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Why would Detroit eat ladd and komarov for a couple meh proapects and a 3rd. You need something of value there

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2 oct. 2020 à 17 h 34

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Nowhere near getting us to take on Ladds 3 x $5.5M and 2 years of Komarov Ho-Sang is looking like a bust and Vande Sompel and a 3rd isn't enough to take on those horrid contracts. Detroit's not moving Zetterberg and a 4th for that.

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2 oct. 2020 à 17 h 35

mondo

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Staal only had a single year left. Ladd and Komorov both have multiple years left. Detroit would probably ask for the 2021 first or something around that value.

You don't need Zetterberg or Kesler either. Islanders wouldn't be able to accrue cap space next season which limits their in-season transaction flexibility. Detroit seems perfectly fine letting Zetterbergs 6 million get them to the floor for one more season.

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2 oct. 2020 à 17 h 37

BStinson

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JHS was on waivers so if Yzerman wanted him that was the time to acquire him. Based on his latest interview I’m sure they’d take on Ladd but it would cost.

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2 oct. 2020 à 17 h 40

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Taking Zetterberg's contract does nothing for the Wings! He is not a negative asset in Detroit. He has 1 season left and the Wings can it all back if needed and the remaining balance of Z''s contract is $1M.

People really need to learn how LTIR works this is the 2nd or 3rd time today I've had to explain it.

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2 oct. 2020 à 17 h 47

trickydick55

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Quoting: redwingsfan04

That’s no where close on the Detroit deal. You can keep Ladd and Komarov unless you’re willing to offer us something of value.

Mitch Vande Somple is very good Player, and if it weren't for Sebastian Aho, he'd probably be kept. with consistent year over year progression in all aspects of his game, he should be NHL ready in the next 2 years and has a top 4 ceiling. JHS is still very skilled very dynamic player, he would fit very will on a Dylan Larkin line. the kid is an NHL talent and with a chip on his shoulder he is going to light it up wherever he goes.

Komorav is not an eat. he's a solid pker, can play both wings and center effectively, is a very good locker room presence, is popular with younger players, he's a decent bottom 6 player and at 750,000 retained, the cap hit is in line with where it should be for the position.

2 oct. 2020 à 17 h 58

BCAPP

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Kesler's contract is apparently at least 80% insured...

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2 oct. 2020 à 18 h 11

redwingsfan04

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Quoting: trickydick55

Ho-Sang has cleared waivers. He has no value. Komarov might have some value to a contender but he has no value to Detroit since we already have way to many veteran bottom 6 forwards. Vande Sompel is a decent prospect but he’s nowhere close to dumping Ladd on his own.

2 oct. 2020 à 18 h 13

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mikearky

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Quoting: trickydick55

Sorry, this deal is just not cutting it. JHS is a bust, he is 24 and can not the big club. Dynamic, really, if he is so dynamic why was he in the AHL for the season?

Vande Sompel is 23 and decent but high 4 ceiling? Maybe 5 or 6 but nowhere close to top 2 or 3.

I think you beleive if you talk up the two B prospects Wings fans will say yes or consider it. Islanders are in cap hell and if Stevie is smart he will leverage alot more than what was posted, otherwise good luck and don't call us.

2 oct. 2020 à 18 h 55

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My understanding is that Kesler's contract is 80% covered by insurance, so Anaheim owes him $1.35 million for each of the last two years of his contract. That's not a burden to us, especially given the favorable discrepancy between cap hits and actual compensation owed this year. It's close to $10 million even without Kesler. (See, for example, Getzlaf, Backes and Gudbranson; there are others.)

2 oct. 2020 à 19 h 2

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I don't know how flush Ana owners are, but I don't think 1.35 million is NOTHING, but its not all that much. I don't think they'd want random players they have to pay back. Perhaps someone could get them to pay up like a 4th or 5th to pay that 2.7 million. But don't expect anything significnat.

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