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Thing 3

Date de création initiale: 27 sept. 2020
Publié: 27 sept. 2020
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
Give Sandin a full season in the AHL to adjust to playing his off side. Go 4-4-1 in expansion.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Cernak, Erik54 360 000 $
Dermott, Travis11 000 000 $
Mikheyev, Ilya21 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Fast, Jesper22 750 000 $
Spezza, Jason1825 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Cernak, Erik4 360 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Ellis, Ryan
  2. Järnkrok, Calle
  3. Watson, Austin
  4. 2021 1e round pick (NSH)
  5. 2020 2e round pick (NSH)
NSH
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
2.
TOR
  1. 2021 3e round pick (EDM)
  2. 2021 6e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 759 283 $0 $0 $1 740 717 $
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Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
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Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
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Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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Johnsson, Andreas
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Fast, Jesper
2 750 000 $
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UFA - 3
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Robertson, Nicholas
821 667 $
AG
RFA - 4
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Järnkrok, Calle
1 000 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
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Mikheyev, Ilya
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Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $
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Spezza, Jason
825 000 $
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UFA - 1
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Watson, Austin
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Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
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Korshkov, Yegor
925 000 $
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RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
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UFA - 2
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Ellis, Ryan
6 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
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Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
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UFA - 1
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Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
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UFA - 4
Cernak, Erik
4 360 000 $
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Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
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Dermott, Travis
1 000 000 $
DG/DD
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Holl, Justin
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Lehtonen, Mikko
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27 sept. 2020 à 8 h 41
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You can through big time with your name and that Nashville trade. Huge overpay for the Leafs
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27 sept. 2020 à 9 h 8
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I can’t see Nashville considering that. I actually do like marner but can’t foresee that big of a return for him.
27 sept. 2020 à 9 h 14
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You can through big time with your name and that Nashville trade. Huge overpay for the Leafs


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I can’t see Nashville considering that. I actually do like marner but can’t foresee that big of a return for him.


Ok so which one is it? Overpay by the leafs or overpay by the Preds?
27 sept. 2020 à 9 h 16
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Ok so which one is it? Overpay by the leafs or overpay by the Preds?


I’d say large overpay by Nashville..
27 sept. 2020 à 9 h 19
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Ok so which one is it? Overpay by the leafs or overpay by the Preds?


Well the second guy to comment is a massive Leaf hater so he can't be trusted. Marner alone is worth a pile more than Ellis, due mainly to age. After that, TO gives up their best RHD prospect who is very highly valued by the team and a decent C prospect. Yes they get a 1st back as well as Ellis but the age difference and Ellis' contract nullify his worth compared to a 23 year old superstar. It's just a poor idea for the Leafs. Creates long term problems and a massive hole to fill upfront.
27 sept. 2020 à 9 h 19
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I’d say large overpay by Nashville..


You'd say that if it was Marner for a 7th
27 sept. 2020 à 9 h 43
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Liljegren is "very valuable"??

Until he plays regularly in the NHL he is nothing more than an AHL'er who shoot right.

He couldn't even crack the lineup last year when the Leafs were decimated with injuries to their D.

Being younger only goes so far. His issues are between the ears IMO.
27 sept. 2020 à 10 h 7
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Well the second guy to comment is a massive Leaf hater so he can't be trusted. Marner alone is worth a pile more than Ellis, due mainly to age. After that, TO gives up their best RHD prospect who is very highly valued by the team and a decent C prospect. Yes they get a 1st back as well as Ellis but the age difference and Ellis' contract nullify his worth compared to a 23 year old superstar. It's just a poor idea for the Leafs. Creates long term problems and a massive hole to fill upfront.


Lmao, everyone according to you is a leaf hater arent they? You are basically Sagecoil for the Leafs. So obsessed with your own players and constantly absurdly overvalue them. Do you think Liljegren is like the next Parayko or something? You would be lucky if hes as good as Hamonic. Yes Marner is an extremely skilled player but your inability to acknowledge that Ellis is extremely skilled too is baffling. You are without question the biggest Leaf homer on this site. Here's your Crown 👑 congrats.
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27 sept. 2020 à 10 h 31
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You'd say that if it was Marner for a 7th


Haha you really don’t like me ehh. Counts for anything I do find you entertaining
27 sept. 2020 à 12 h 19
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Well the second guy to comment is a massive Leaf hater so he can't be trusted. Marner alone is worth a pile more than Ellis, due mainly to age. After that, TO gives up their best RHD prospect who is very highly valued by the team and a decent C prospect. Yes they get a 1st back as well as Ellis but the age difference and Ellis' contract nullify his worth compared to a 23 year old superstar. It's just a poor idea for the Leafs. Creates long term problems and a massive hole to fill upfront.


Agreed
27 sept. 2020 à 12 h 21
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Liljegren is "very valuable"??

Until he plays regularly in the NHL he is nothing more than an AHL'er who shoot right.

He couldn't even crack the lineup last year when the Leafs were decimated with injuries to their D.

Being younger only goes so far. His issues are between the ears IMO.


Defensemen take longer to develop. Liljegren has been one of the best defensemen in the AHL in the last few seasons and is still considered one of the leafs highest ranked prospects. He still holds a lot of value, and he face that people have already given up on his is stupid. Shea Theodore was a bit of a late bloomer but look at how he turned out
27 sept. 2020 à 12 h 45
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take out Lijlegren/preds 1st next year and I'd do it.
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27 sept. 2020 à 13 h 21
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Defensemen take longer to develop. Liljegren has been one of the best defensemen in the AHL in the last few seasons and is still considered one of the leafs highest ranked prospects. He still holds a lot of value, and he face that people have already given up on his is stupid. Shea Theodore was a bit of a late bloomer but look at how he turned out


I'm not saying he doesn't have any value. I'm saying that he is being overvalued in most cases on here by Leaf fans.

Until he plays regularly in the NHL, he isn't an NHL defensman.
27 sept. 2020 à 18 h 46
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Lmao, everyone according to you is a leaf hater arent they? You are basically Sagecoil for the Leafs. So obsessed with your own players and constantly absurdly overvalue them. Do you think Liljegren is like the next Parayko or something? You would be lucky if hes as good as Hamonic. Yes Marner is an extremely skilled player but your inability to acknowledge that Ellis is extremely skilled too is baffling. You are without question the biggest Leaf homer on this site. Here's your Crown 👑 congrats.


Hilarious. Unless I crap on Leaf players I'm the biggest Homer. You're a joke
27 sept. 2020 à 18 h 47
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Haha you really don’t like me ehh. Counts for anything I do find you entertaining


Cool, awesome use of the English langue there boss.
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27 sept. 2020 à 18 h 48
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Defensemen take longer to develop. Liljegren has been one of the best defensemen in the AHL in the last few seasons and is still considered one of the leafs highest ranked prospects. He still holds a lot of value, and he face that people have already given up on his is stupid. Shea Theodore was a bit of a late bloomer but look at how he turned out


That guy is one of the most negative Leaf fans there is. Hates all young players and anyone who isn't in his eyes tough. If you disagree with him, he hates you as well.
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27 sept. 2020 à 19 h 17
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Hilarious. Unless I crap on Leaf players I'm the biggest Homer. You're a joke


Im a joke? You've literally called 3 people here who disagree with your opinion irrelevant for your simple reasoning of "that guy is one of the biggest leaf haters here."

News flash I, like a good amount of others here dont hate the leafs at all. We just actually have knowledge about other teams and can see the value in other players. No GM in the league is going to gift wrap Toronto what they need for the cup.
27 sept. 2020 à 20 h 43
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Im a joke? You've literally called 3 people here who disagree with your opinion irrelevant for your simple reasoning of "that guy is one of the biggest leaf haters here."

News flash I, like a good amount of others here dont hate the leafs at all. We just actually have knowledge about other teams and can see the value in other players. No GM in the league is going to gift wrap Toronto what they need for the cup.


Sure, you just have an informed opinion that all leaf fans overrated all their players and those players are half as good as they are.
27 sept. 2020 à 20 h 51
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Sure, you just have an informed opinion that all leaf fans overrated all their players and those players are half as good as they are.


No not all leafs fans, simply just you. For example there is no one on this site more that i respect more than SammyT. He is a Leafs fan but he also doesn't wear blinders
27 sept. 2020 à 21 h 29
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No not all leafs fans, simply just you. For example there is no one on this site more that i respect more than SammyT. He is a Leafs fan but he also doesn't wear blinders


And where am I wearing blinders exactly? By saying Rielly is an elite #1 defenceman? By saying the guy who has scored the most 5v5 goals since he's entered the league generational talent? By saying Dermott has value, or Johnsson, or Andersen or any player on the Leafs roster holds a fair level of value? I just don't bend to the opinions of people who can't check their own bias when trying to talk on this site. You hardcore love the flames and you 100% have a degree of bias against the Leafs. And against the eastern conference as well for that matter. Which is all fine, but to pretend it doesn't exist just makes it silly.
27 sept. 2020 à 21 h 43
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That guy is one of the most negative Leaf fans there is. Hates all young players and anyone who isn't in his eyes tough. If you disagree with him, he hates you as well.

I’m used to hate it’s fine lol. I’m probably one of the more hated leafs fans by leafs fans on insta lol
27 sept. 2020 à 21 h 53
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And where am I wearing blinders exactly? By saying Rielly is an elite #1 defenceman? By saying the guy who has scored the most 5v5 goals since he's entered the league generational talent? By saying Dermott has value, or Johnsson, or Andersen or any player on the Leafs roster holds a fair level of value? I just don't bend to the opinions of people who can't check their own bias when trying to talk on this site. You hardcore love the flames and you 100% have a degree of bias against the Leafs. And against the eastern conference as well for that matter. Which is all fine, but to pretend it doesn't exist just makes it silly.


I do have a bias towards the Flames that's not really a debate. He is not a generational talent LMAO, he is a franchise level player. Matthews has never once been considered the best player in the league and probably never will be. That doesn't mean he is bad though. Franchise level players are extremely good. All those listed players have value but its not something absurd like a 1st. Andersen may be able to fetch a 1st if there were only 1 or 2 other goalies on the market but definitely not while there are 10-12.

Not sure how I have a bias towards the eastern conference when I am a bolts fan and live in the eastern conference.
27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 3
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And where am I wearing blinders exactly? By saying Rielly is an elite #1 defenceman? By saying the guy who has scored the most 5v5 goals since he's entered the league generational talent? By saying Dermott has value, or Johnsson, or Andersen or any player on the Leafs roster holds a fair level of value? I just don't bend to the opinions of people who can't check their own bias when trying to talk on this site. You hardcore love the flames and you 100% have a degree of bias against the Leafs. And against the eastern conference as well for that matter. Which is all fine, but to pretend it doesn't exist just makes it silly.


Matthews isn't a generational talent. Sure he is a top 5 centre but not generational. Thats where Crosby and Mcdavid go
27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 5
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I do have a bias towards the Flames that's not really a debate. He is not a generational talent LMAO, he is a franchise level player. Matthews has never once been considered the best player in the league and probably never will be. That doesn't mean he is bad though. Franchise level players are extremely good. All those listed players have value but its not something absurd like a 1st. Andersen may be able to fetch a 1st if there were only 1 or 2 other goalies on the market but definitely not while there are 10-12.

Not sure how I have a bias towards the eastern conference when I am a bolts fan and live in the eastern conference.


Matthews is legit so underrated. He's literally the best at scoring 5v5, it can't be debated. His defensive stats are all better than everyone considered better than, MacKinnon is close. He's going to he considered the 3rd best or 2nd best player on the planet but you'll say he's just good.
27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 13
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Matthews is legit so underrated. He's literally the best at scoring 5v5, it can't be debated. His defensive stats are all better than everyone considered better than, MacKinnon is close. He's going to he considered the 3rd best or 2nd best player on the planet but you'll say he's just good.


um no. Matthews is not underrated. He might be one of the best scoring at 5 on 5 but his defensive stats are better then everyone else's. I love Matthews and think he is great but holy you are treating him like he is Mcdavid 2.0
 
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