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How does Vegas fit Pietro and Lehner

Créé par: gdg_9
Équipe: 2020-21 Golden Knights de Vegas
Date de création initiale: 25 sept. 2020
Publié: 25 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Just playing around with the roster to see how they could possibly fit Pietro and Lehner.
For RFAs, Evolving Hockey puts Cousins at 4 x $3M and Stephenson at 3 x $2.4.
I put them at lower cap hits on 1 yr deals instead due to Vegas' cap situation.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
11 750 000 $
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78 500 000 $
65 000 000 $
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VGK
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
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VGK
  1. Nilsson, Anders
Détails additionnels:
Gives OTT a veteran presence for the next 2 yrs to go with Hoberg and cover until one of the G prospects is ready.
They add a (likely high) 2nd for taking on the full salary.
OTT
  1. Fleury, Marc-André
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
2nd added for Ottawa to take the full salary
3.
VGK
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
To any team for a pick
ANA
  1. Carrier, William
Détails additionnels:
To any team for a pick
4.
VGK
  1. Armia, Joel (1 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (STL)
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G
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5 950 000 $5 950 000 $
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DD
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G
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25 sept. 2020 à 11 h 51
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The answer is: they don't
25 sept. 2020 à 11 h 53
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The answer is: they don't


Came here to say just this
25 sept. 2020 à 11 h 53
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Quoting: Fel93
The answer is: they don't


While I would tend to agree, all of the "Insiders" are saying Lehner is going to re-sign there, and that they are going to take a serious run at Pietro... so the question is, how?
25 sept. 2020 à 11 h 53
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Habs don't add a high pick if they retain salary.

I'd say Armia (1m retain) + 5th pick OR Armia no retention + 2nd pick
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25 sept. 2020 à 11 h 54
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MAF is owed 12.5M for his last 2 years, no chance Melnyk will pay that for a "vet presence"
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25 sept. 2020 à 11 h 54
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Do you think they move Marchessault or Smith? I get the feeling they like Tuch a lot.
25 sept. 2020 à 11 h 56
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I don't see Fleury waiving for OTT
25 sept. 2020 à 11 h 57
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Quoting: CowSaysMoo
Do you think they move Marchessault or Smith? I get the feeling they like Tuch a lot.


Ya, maybe... I think one of the wingers have to go.
They can't afford to pay $4.75m-$5m for a W to play on the 3rd line.
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25 sept. 2020 à 11 h 59
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Quoting: villenash
I don't see Fleury waiving for OTT


He doesn't necessarily have to.
He only has a 10-team no trade list.
If OTT isn't on that list, he has no choice.
(Look at what happened to Staal with BUF)
25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 2
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
MAF is owed 12.5M for his last 2 years, no chance Melnyk will pay that for a "vet presence"


Ya, maybe not... But it's not just the vet presence. They also get a (probably quite high) 2nd round pick as well.
And they should have a solid presence in net to help with their rebuild. It won't help the kids develop if they get shelled every night.

I get it about Melnyuk being cheap tho... so maybe it doesn't work.
25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 4
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Ya, maybe not... But it's not just the vet presence. They also get a (probably quite high) 2nd round pick as well.
And they should have a solid presence in net to help with their rebuild. It won't help the kids develop if they get shelled every night.

I get it about Melnyuk being cheap tho... so maybe it doesn't work.


Quite high? That pick will probably be in the last 4 of the 2nd round. Melnyk's so cheap he just bought out Bobby Ryan (who was helping him hit the floor) for a total of 3.2M saved
25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 5
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He doesn't necessarily have to.
He only has a 10-team no trade list.
If OTT isn't on that list, he has no choice.
(Look at what happened to Staal with BUF)


But why wouldn't OTT be on that list...?
25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 7
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Quite high? That pick will probably be in the last 4 of the 2nd round. Melnyk's so cheap he just bought out Bobby Ryan (who was helping him hit the floor) for a total of 3.2M saved


It is New Jersey's 2nd rounder that's included in the deal, so yes, probably quite high.

And ya... just saw the Ryan news.
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25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 9
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Quoting: felixxx07
Habs don't add a high pick if they retain salary.

I'd say Armia (1m retain) + 5th pick OR Armia no retention + 2nd pick


whatever.. for Tuch.. YES
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25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 9
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Quoting: villenash
But why wouldn't OTT be on that list...?


Players and their agents try to use those 10-team lists as strategic as possible to gain as much control as possible over the situation.
Maybe he doesn't think there is a high chance of being dealt to OTT, so didn't include them in the 10?
That's what happened with Staal to BUF. He wouldn't have chosen to go there.
25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 9
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I'd say Armia (1m retain) + 5th pick OR Armia no retention + 2nd pick[/quote]

MTL said hell yes bro!
25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 11
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Players and their agents try to use those 10-team lists as strategic as possible to gain as much control as possible over the situation.
Maybe he doesn't think there is a high chance of being dealt to OTT, so didn't include them in the 10?
That's what happened with Staal to BUF. He wouldn't have chosen to go there.


I'd choose BUF over OTT every time. But we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 15
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
MAF is owed 12.5M for his last 2 years, no chance Melnyk will pay that for a "vet presence"


especially not considering we just bought out a similarly priced veteran presence (unless that was to make space for MAF)
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25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 19
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Leafs and Sens say no.
25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 33
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Zero chance they move Carrier and pay Cousins 1.7m, and move Tuch over Marchessault.

Also paying 2.6m for a meh backup.
25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 37
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The answer is: they don't


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Came here to say just this


Do you honestly believe the team that gave 9.5m of cap they didn't have to Stone won't move players out again for Pietrangelo and Lehner? They went through this exact same thing last year.
25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 39
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Do you honestly believe the team that gave 9.5m of cap they didn't have to Stone won't move players out again for Pietrangelo and Lehner? They went through this exact same thing last year.


Um yes, because this time it totals at least 13.5M
25 sept. 2020 à 12 h 42
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Um yes, because this time it totals at least 13.5M


They're already moving out Fleury and starting with 4.9m cap space. Last year they were well over the cap and had Karlsson to re-sign.
25 sept. 2020 à 13 h 25
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Quoting: DillBaley
Zero chance they move Carrier and pay Cousins 1.7m, and move Tuch over Marchessault.

Also paying 2.6m for a meh backup.


Sure... move Marchessault instead of Tuch, or Cousins instead of Carrier. That would work too.

And paying $2.6m for a backup is the price for not paying $7m for a backup.
25 sept. 2020 à 13 h 27
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Sure... move Marchessault instead of Tuch, or Cousins instead of Carrier. That would work too.

And paying $2.6m for a backup is the price for not paying $7m for a backup.


Sure, take him back in a trade. But move him out somewhere else and sign someone like Ryan Miller 1 year 900k.
 
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