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Créé par: Nik_SH
Équipe: 2020-21 Predators de Nashville
Date de création initiale: 15 sept. 2020
Publié: 15 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
1) All three players in trade with PIT are overpaid, but I think it's win-win for both sides. Preds need to change their mentality, and PIT need to save as much money as possible.
Also it is good for players, I think.
Hornqvist gets a chance to finish his carrier with his old team, and help them winning the SC. Johnson and Turris just get a chance to change the scenario, find their game and place with new teams.
What do you think about this trade?
2) VAN saves money and I do not believe Virtanen has a real chance to be their TOP-6 forward. But in NSH he has that chance. So, in my opinion it is also win-win trade. Jarnkrok can play TOP-6 role if needed, and who knows, maybe he will be much better player with new teammates.
What do you think?
3) Just classic Watson to TOR trade. It is very popular idea. And I think it is possible. I think Preds need to make more shakeups and this is one of them.

P.S. or some thoughts about next season for NSH:
If something goes wrong - NSH should(will) trade Ekholm, Bonino and maybe someone else(before trade deadline or earlier).
If Tolvy or/and Virtanen can't play in TOP-6 as all Preds organization expect - (one of them)/they can be replaced by Tomasino orl/and 2021 1st rounder(hope it will be Quinn).

If everything is fine - I think Preds should save everyone in their group and try to win SC. Yes, likely they will lose Ekholm on the expansion draft, but he is very important peace in potential SC success.
Do not think they will be much better in next few years. Likely - not.
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NSH
  1. Hörnqvist, Patric
  2. Johnson, Jack
Détails additionnels:
PIT saves $2,550,000 for the next 3 years + second rounder in good draft year.
Also Turris is not that bad, and will take 3rd line center spot, with high chances to play in top 6, due to high chances of injury of Malkin or Crosby.
PIT
  1. Turris, Kyle
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (NSH)
Détails additionnels:
NSH gets solid veteran(former Nashville player) on their second/third line. Patric well know with old Preds style of play, and it is very important and it is the main thing in new season. Just start to play like in past, just play hard every night, with soul.
Also NSH gets 3rd pair defenseman, that what they need.
2.
NSH
  1. Virtanen, Jake [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
VAN like players from Sweden, Jarnkrok is pretty nice guy who can play everywhere, he can score, he can play defense and he is on a nice contract.
VAN
  1. Järnkrok, Calle
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (NSH)
Détails additionnels:
NSH gets young player, who have a good potential to play in their TOP 6.
He is better then Jarnkrok offensively and younger, that's why Preds add 3rd.
*He will take more space under cap, that's why it is only 3rd.
3.
NSH
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
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15 sept. 2020 à 11 h 31
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Van doesn't want salary coming back. Replace Jarnkrok with a prospect like Farrance and you have a deal.
15 sept. 2020 à 11 h 38
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Jarnkrok > Virtanen so not sure why NSH would be adding to the trade.

Same with the PIT trade. If NSH takes on Johnson, there is no way that PIT is getting that 2nd. Turris can still play at a positive and productive level in the NHL as a 2/3C. Johnson is literally one of the worst defenseman in the NHL.
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15 sept. 2020 à 11 h 42
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Quoting: villenash
Jarnkrok > Virtanen so not sure why NSH would be adding to the trade.

Same with the PIT trade. If NSH takes on Johnson, there is no way that PIT is getting that 2nd. Turris can still play at a positive and productive level in the NHL as a 2/3C. Johnson is literally one of the worst defenseman in the NHL.


If you take out that 2nd and do a straight Turris for JJ and Hornqvist I'm still thrilled as a Pens fan. Hell I'd even add a pick.
15 sept. 2020 à 11 h 43
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I'd be fine with bringing Hornqvist back, but not at the cost of acquiring Johnson. I realize that probably doesn't work with the scenario of trading Turris and PIT needing to save some cap. If we're spending that much on 3rd LD, I'd rather see Kulikov, Brodie, or Dillon as FA, or trade for someone like Jake McCabe.
15 sept. 2020 à 12 h 22
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Pittsburgh says yes, could probably move the pick back a round or two and it’s still fine
15 sept. 2020 à 12 h 50
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Pittsburgh says yes, could probably move the pick back a round or two and it’s still fine


I know Turris is a risky contract to take back, but I think I'd be cool with that trade even if we were adding a pick.
15 sept. 2020 à 16 h 31
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Quoting: villenash
Jarnkrok > Virtanen so not sure why NSH would be adding to the trade.

Same with the PIT trade. If NSH takes on Johnson, there is no way that PIT is getting that 2nd. Turris can still play at a positive and productive level in the NHL as a 2/3C. Johnson is literally one of the worst defenseman in the NHL.


The worst, not one of, LOL
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15 sept. 2020 à 16 h 32
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Thats a BAD deal for NSH with Pens trade, Johnson is the WORST hockey player, IN THE WORLD!!! Add a 1st and a 3rd and you can start talking
16 sept. 2020 à 10 h 32
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Poiles end of the season press conference said he wants to get younger and give some young guys chances. This proposal made an already old team way older with these trades. Hornqvist is a former shell of his old self and we have way better options for a lhd 3rd pairing than this. The Pittsburgh trade makes us a worse. I’d rather just buy out Turris and use that money elsewhere before I would ever consider this deal
 
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