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The Might As Well Re-Tool Until Geoff Ward is Fired Team

Créé par: LittleBroDougie
Équipe: 2020-21 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 13 sept. 2020
Publié: 13 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Unite the Tkachuk bros
Alternate Cozens and Ryan at centre - get the veteran centre to show him the ropes.
LEHNER DEAL IS +/- 0.5M - lots of cap room.
Sell Ryan at TDL.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
64 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
47 000 000 $
43 850 000 $
31 750 000 $
21 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Cozens, Dylan
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
2020 2nd round pick
BUF
  1. Gaudreau, Johnny
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Gaudreau extension
Whichever 3rd pick we get from Oil goes into trade
2.
CGY
  1. Tkachuk, Brady
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (OTT)
OTT
  1. Emilio Pettersen, Mathias
  2. Monahan, Sean
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
Take a pick from MEP or Pelletier. MEP is a highly skilled prospect with a high ceiling
Flip the second round pick (from Buf)
Rachats de contrats
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
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Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AG
UFA - 1
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4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 4
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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2 550 000 $2 550 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 3
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
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900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 1
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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13 sept. 2020 à 18 h 1
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Brady is absolutely untouchable lmao
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13 sept. 2020 à 18 h 2
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No thx, we just cannot trade Cozens in the current situation
13 sept. 2020 à 18 h 2
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Brady is absolutely untouchable lmao


Which is silly but you're probably right. You build from centres out.
13 sept. 2020 à 18 h 3
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I'm not arguing the clause of Gaudreau vs Cozens as you're in the ballpark. But it doesn't make sense from team needs. Buffalo NEEDS a 2c and essentially has since they traded R'OR. The only reason to trade Cozens is to get a proven c back. Not an all star winger as their wing depth is fine
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13 sept. 2020 à 18 h 16
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Wasn't it reported that Lehner was 5x5 with vegas?
13 sept. 2020 à 18 h 26
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Which is silly but you're probably right. You build from centres out.




I agree, but I don't think Monahan is a C you build around. I think he's more valuable to a contender or a team who can put him behind a real 1C.

Brady also just has so much more room to grow. Brady was one of the best individual offense creators in the league last year, and he did it with no help. He's gonna be money in the bank 30+ goals once he has a team around him.
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13 sept. 2020 à 18 h 30
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Ward hasn't even been hired yet...
13 sept. 2020 à 18 h 59
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Cozens > Gaudreau
13 sept. 2020 à 19 h 5
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Brady is absolutely untouchable lmao


Please...?

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No thx, we just cannot trade Cozens in the current situation



Please...?

Quoting: BCAPP
I'm not arguing the clause of Gaudreau vs Cozens as you're in the ballpark. But it doesn't make sense from team needs. Buffalo NEEDS a 2c and essentially has since they traded R'OR. The only reason to trade Cozens is to get a proven c back. Not an all star winger as their wing depth is fine


Fine we'll give you Monny and give Ottawa Johnny smile

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Wasn't it reported that Lehner was 5x5 with vegas?


Unofficially yes which means you never know! (especially with Dallas being up 3-1 maybe things have changed)

Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Ward hasn't even been hired yet...


Frieds announced which makes it more or less official lol. Plus who are we kidding - Calgary mgmt would never spend money on a real coach.

Quoting: Skyraider112
Cozens > Gaudreau


Prove it.
13 sept. 2020 à 19 h 12
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Cozens > Gaudreau


Lmao what?
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13 sept. 2020 à 19 h 32
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We cannot trade our best prospect on ELC contract with an internal cap of 70 million. Although I would not trade even without internal cap.
13 sept. 2020 à 20 h 7
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I agree, but I don't think Monahan is a C you build around. I think he's more valuable to a contender or a team who can put him behind a real 1C.

Brady also just has so much more room to grow. Brady was one of the best individual offense creators in the league last year, and he did it with no help. He's gonna be money in the bank 30+ goals once he has a team around him.


I didn't necessarily mean this trade just the concept of a winger being untouchable. The last winger who should have been untouchable was Ovechkin and probably Kane. Outside of that? You build teams around C's

B Tkachuk looks like an excellent piece and can easily be a core piece to a championship. But he needs the 1c on that team
13 sept. 2020 à 22 h 12
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OTT declines so easily
13 sept. 2020 à 22 h 38
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Quoting: BCAPP
I didn't necessarily mean this trade just the concept of a winger being untouchable. The last winger who should have been untouchable was Ovechkin and probably Kane. Outside of that? You build teams around C's

B Tkachuk looks like an excellent piece and can easily be a core piece to a championship. But he needs the 1c on that team


I agree that the 1C is probably the most important piece in a rebuild, but I completely disagree with your point about wingers not being untouchable. I think there are wingers who are so important to their team, that they would be absolutely off the table in terms of trade. I'd put Both Tkachuks in that conversation, Pastranak, Svechnikov, Rantanen are all in that tier. Not that I'm suggesting Brady is on the level of all those guys in terms of skill, but I think there are wingers that you don't even pick up the phone for in trade talks.*

Also I agree that Ottawa needs a top C for Brady, but that's likely going to be taken care of at the draft. They're basically guaranteed one of Byfield/Stutzle, and it sounds like it will be Byfield.


*speaking in terms of actual realistic expectations. Obviously you can come up with hypothetical scenario that would be too good to pass up.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I agree that the 1C is probably the most important piece in a rebuild, but I completely disagree with your point about wingers not being untouchable. I think there are wingers who are so important to their team, that they would be absolutely off the table in terms of trade. I'd put Both Tkachuks in that conversation, Pastranak, Svechnikov, Rantanen are all in that tier. Not that I'm suggesting Brady is on the level of all those guys in terms of skill, but I think there are wingers that you don't even pick up the phone for in trade talks.*

Also I agree that Ottawa needs a top C for Brady, but that's likely going to be taken care of at the draft. They're basically guaranteed one of Byfield/Stutzle, and it sounds like it will be Byfield.


*speaking in terms of actual realistic expectations. Obviously you can come up with hypothetical scenario that would be too good to pass up.




Agreed but like you said Brady isn't in that conversation in my opinion he hasn't done enough to be considered that valuable. Matthew is quickly becoming the face of the franchise here but with #3 and #5 I think Ottawa will have a new identity in 2020-21.

Therefore Brady could be had in theory for the right price smile
14 sept. 2020 à 20 h 10
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Agreed but like you said Brady isn't in that conversation in my opinion he hasn't done enough to be considered that valuable. Matthew is quickly becoming the face of the franchise here but with #3 and #5 I think Ottawa will have a new identity in 2020-21.

Therefore Brady could be had in theory for the right price smile


Brady is the identity this team will want. Highly skilled, and goes to war every shift. He's probably the future Captain. As I said, untouchable.

Would the Flames have traded Matthew after two seasons? He was at the same level Brady is now, but he was clearly not available because he clearly showed the potential to be much more than what he was at the time.
 
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