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Bottom 6 and 3rd pairing work

Créé par: GloryPlay
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 31 août 2020
Publié: 31 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Moved Murray, Bjugstad, and JJ. Added Radek Faksa to fill that 3C role and Derek Grant to fill in on the fourth line while ZAR is out injured. Re-signed Jarry, McCann (winger is the plan), Simon, Lafferty. These all feel realistic to me but I'm curious on everyone's thoughts.
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  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
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  1. Murray, Matt [Droits de RFA]
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I personally think we get something like a 4th-5th for Murray considering the goalie moves expected this offseason. However after looking over most AGM moves involving Murray I see most people mocking a 2nd for him so I made a compromise of a 3rd.
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  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
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  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Johnson, Jack (1 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
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This feels a bit like the Hunwick/Sheary to Buffalo trade from a few years ago. I tend to think GMJR would rather not retain anything on johnson's deal because that, like a buyout, seems to show that it was a mistake and he appears set on not admitting that with JJ. But since this is my armchair GMing I think it's something that would be necessary given the circumstances and I also think it would be a shrewd move by Ottawa to acquire a pick and see what Bjugstad has left since most UFAs aren't lining up to sign in Ottawa.
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PIT
  1. Faksa, Radek [Droits de RFA]
DAL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Dallas may want to move Faksa if hes asking for more than expected with Hintz and Gurianov but needing to be paid this offseason and both being younger. A bit of a pipe dream but I know I'm not the only Pens fan that would like seeing Faksa in that 3C role.
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31 août 2020 à 22 h 17
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ZAR>grant
31 août 2020 à 22 h 25
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Feel like Simon would just fill in while ZAR recovers
31 août 2020 à 22 h 26
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ZAR>grant


He never said he wasn’t. He signed Grant to fill in while ZAR recovers from surgery.
31 août 2020 à 22 h 27
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Dallas isn't giving Faksa away.

Don't think Ottawa would have any interest in that at all.
31 août 2020 à 22 h 27
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way to sell low on murray
31 août 2020 à 22 h 38
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Is one horrible Murray trade suppose to level out two horrible trades for OTT and Dallas?
31 août 2020 à 22 h 38
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I've been saying Murray isn't worth a 1st, but he is worth a 2nd.
31 août 2020 à 22 h 44
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He never said he wasn’t. He signed Grant to fill in while ZAR recovers from surgery.


Oh yeah, forgot thats a thing
31 août 2020 à 22 h 54
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OTT has no interest in this at all.

Instant decline. To move JJ starts at a 1st
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31 août 2020 à 23 h 15
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
ZAR>grant


Yeah I agree but I also never said Grant was better than him this was just a move to cover ZARs absence
31 août 2020 à 23 h 17
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OTT has no interest in this at all.

Instant decline. To move JJ starts at a 1st


Yeah I'd say that's an ideal situation but we've seen bad contracts moved before and they didn't all include a first hence why I mentioned the Hunwick deal
31 août 2020 à 23 h 19
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Is one horrible Murray trade suppose to level out two horrible trades for OTT and Dallas?


Sorry but I don't quite get what you're saying here. I also don't think we're gonna get what everyone wants for Murray the goalie market is over-saturated this offseason so I went more conservative on that deal.
31 août 2020 à 23 h 20
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way to sell low on murray


What are you expecting him to return in this market?
31 août 2020 à 23 h 21
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Feel like Simon would just fill in while ZAR recovers


Yeah that could happen but I still feel like depth helps and after moving bjugstad there was some cap to make a move without hurting them long term
31 août 2020 à 23 h 22
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Is one horrible Murray trade suppose to level out two horrible trades for OTT and Dallas?


Also the faksa trade was made under the guideline that dallas has used before when dealing RFAs see the goligoski to arizona trade
31 août 2020 à 23 h 32
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What are you expecting him to return in this market?


Considering first round picks are being tossed around like nothing, he’s netting a first
31 août 2020 à 23 h 44
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Considering first round picks are being tossed around like nothing, he’s netting a first


You really think so? Considering the amount of goalies in flux I'm not banking on Murray netting a first. Maybe if he had produced this year he could net that but I don't think its gonna take that much to get him not too mention that with his RFA status teams know pittsburgh has to move one of the goalies. To each their own on this though if he nets a first I'd be happy so I wouldn't complain.
31 août 2020 à 23 h 48
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You really think so? Considering the amount of goalies in flux I'm not banking on Murray netting a first. Maybe if he had produced this year he could net that but I don't think its gonna take that much to get him not too mention that with his RFA status teams know pittsburgh has to move one of the goalies. To each their own on this though if he nets a first I'd be happy so I wouldn't complain.


First round picks have been tossed around like nothing recently and there’s a lot of bad GMs around who need a goalie and could be allured by Murray’s Cup Resume. I guess we will see since 99% chance he’s gone, but if Rutherford doesn’t get at least a quality draft pick / prospect after that Kapanen blunder, he should be fired
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First round picks have been tossed around like nothing recently and there’s a lot of bad GMs around who need a goalie and could be allured by Murray’s Cup Resume. I guess we will see since 99% chance he’s gone, but if Rutherford doesn’t get at least a quality draft pick / prospect after that Kapanen blunder, he should be fired


The goalie market is absolutely flooded and the 2nd/3rd tier will come relatively cheap, not to mention the Murray’s contract will pay him for the cups and not his recent play. With the flat cap, a 3rd is super reasonable. Just because 1sts are being moved a lot doesn't mean Murray is worth anything near that. But regarding this specific trade, Minnesota isn’t in a win now mode and they have a young goalie that needs his shot.
1 sept. 2020 à 2 h 11
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The goalie market is absolutely flooded and the 2nd/3rd tier will come relatively cheap, not to mention the Murray’s contract will pay him for the cups and not his recent play. With the flat cap, a 3rd is super reasonable. Just because 1sts are being moved a lot doesn't mean Murray is worth anything near that. But regarding this specific trade, Minnesota isn’t in a win now mode and they have a young goalie that needs his shot.


I stopped reading when you said a third round pick is reasonable for a starting goalie RFA
1 sept. 2020 à 6 h 35
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Bjugstad, Nick
Johnson, Jack

Pittsburgh fans can be so tiresome.
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1 sept. 2020 à 8 h 11
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Bjugstad, Nick
Johnson, Jack

Pittsburgh fans can be so tiresome.


Well, usually you dump your bad players to a minor league team...
1 sept. 2020 à 9 h 33
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Yeah I'd say that's an ideal situation but we've seen bad contracts moved before and they didn't all include a first hence why I mentioned the Hunwick deal


You include Bjug like he is a positive point on the trade. He costs to dump as well and OTT has a breadth of bottom 6 C. Include a 1st or no chance in moving JJ
 
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