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Créé par: Rebelsallstar88
Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 31 août 2020
Publié: 31 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
14 750 000 $
32 750 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Lafreniere, Alexis
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
ARI
  1. Andersson, Lias
  2. Kravtsov, Vitali
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CAR)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
2.
NYR
  1. Vilardi, Gabriel
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
LAK
  1. Deangelo, Anthony [Droits de RFA]
3.
NYR
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (COL)
COL
  1. Lundqvist, Henrik
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
4.
NYR
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (OTT)
OTT
  1. Smith, Brendan
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (OTT)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de NYR
Logo de VGK
Logo de DAL
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de COL
Logo de NYR
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Logo de NSH
Logo de VAN
2021
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de BUF
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de OTT
2022
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $74 810 633 $0 $8 362 500 $6 689 367 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Rangers de New York
11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
7 150 000 $7 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Rangers de New York
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AD
RFA - 2
Lafreniere, Alexis
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Rangers de New York
833 333 $833 333 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Rangers de New York
863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 700 000 $5 700 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1

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31 août 2020 à 17 h 14
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I heff to be mad...
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Why do you rangers fans all want to trade DeAngelo
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31 août 2020 à 17 h 14
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Démarrer sujet
Gaynor88
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nils lundqvist ^
31 août 2020 à 17 h 18
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thats an avs nightmare
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31 août 2020 à 17 h 35
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Once a Kings Fan Too
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I wouldn't trade Vilardi for De Angelo unless we were also getting the Carolina first.
31 août 2020 à 18 h 37
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Sorry, the Rangers add in a Vilardi for Deangelo swap, not the Kings.
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31 août 2020 à 20 h 25
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Quoting: LeafsFan4Ever34
Why do you rangers fans all want to trade DeAngelo


The "beat around the bush" answer is that Nils is on the way....now nothing against Nils- he has so far developed just the way they want...and he does project as a top 4 D man...perhaps a star...but Nils hasn't played in the NHL yet...so this is a BS response.

The true reason many fans want to move him is his political views...they can't take the fact that he's an open and unapologetic Trump supporter. For sure ADA had issues earlier in his development...but other than frequent sparring with fans on blogs or through his podcast- those issues seem to be behind him. Most importantly, he seems to be a positive locker room guy...haven't heard of one issue with his team mates...and he is quick to defend them (on ice and in social media). So if you are looking for a hockey player whose ceiling is the sky- if he can maintain his O production while improving even marginally in his D end- he's the guy you want on your team....as long as you can respect his personal freedoms. BTW...unless the Rangers get a boatload of a return- no way should they move him!!
1 sept. 2020 à 8 h 9
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Quoting: LeafsFan4Ever34
Why do you rangers fans all want to trade DeAngelo


The best way I can put it: Tony DeAngelo will never be more than the 3rd most important RHD on the Rangers roster. People will say Nils, people will say the politics, him threatening to fight fans on Twitter, whatever. But the bottom line is this:

The Rangers are too invested in Jacob Trouba with his contract and that he's the only proven good PKD we have, so there's no world in which Tony DeAngelo surpasses him. Like it or not, I think this is just reality. And there's no world in which DeAngelo is better for the Rangers long term than Adam Fox, who is going to need a lot of money as well. So if the Rangers tie down DeAngelo for many years, then they're going to end up with probably 20+m tied up just in RHD (Trouba at 8m, Tony at 5-6m long term, Fox at probably 7m if he bridges and more if they go long term). A third pairing defenseman is not a position you invest big money in, not in the current salary cap era where it barely goes up year to year, not in the current flat cap era, not when you have all of these ELC players that will need money like Chytil, Kakko, Gauthier, Lindgren, etc.

The reason Nils Lundkvist matters in that case is not that he's so good that he makes Tony expendable, but that he's so cheap that even if he's just a third pairing defenseman, that's fine for the Rangers. A Tony DeAngelo trade would, in theory, allow the Rangers to deal from a position of relative strength (having these two RHD ahead of him and another on the way, not really needing a top player and they could get by with some low risk high reward signings at the position) to address a position of relative weakness (ie a middle 6 C, in this case, Gabe Vilardi, ignoring the value).

That's why you see Tony for Hanifin or Tony for Brodin swaps (RHD for a top 4 LHD, potentially a good partner for Trouba) or for Cirelli/Danault/Monahan (2nd line center to protect us in case Chytil can't step up into that spot). And when they trade him for just picks, I don't see that as "realistic" but it still is the same idea; trading a high value asset that we aren't going to want to use or pay that way for other assets.

I think in reality, the only scenarios where Tony is traded are in a hockey deal for a top 4 LHD or 2C, maybe for a 1st round pick. I think the most likely real scenario is that he's signed for a year or two (the Rangers can afford to pay him that way while their ELCs are still in tact) and then moved at the deadline or next offseason when the Rangers feel more comfortable with their replacement options.

tl;dr the Rangers are stacked on the right side and Tony is the obvious odd man out. The Rangers can deal a good player that they don't have the ice time for (without taking their other options off the ice) for something else they could really use, namely a) a premium pick, b) 2C, c) top 4 LHD.
 
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