He wanted Jarry but doubt Pens give him up to dump JJ. I'd be interested in POJ, Poulin, or legare.

If the pens are taking Rask, MIN doesnt get a prospect for taking Johnson.

I agree it wouldn’t be one of the top prospects. I was imagining some lower level prospect that Guerin may have really liked when he was in Pittsburgh.

Agreed. I think the Wild will hold on to Rask, its not worth trying to dump him. As far as this trade goes, thats a huge cap dump and its not in our interest to make you better given we have your pick next year. The return would have to be substantial and POJ/Legare/Poulin are probably what it would take for the Wild to consider it. Don't see it happening unless we unload Parise or Zuccarello contracts though.

Johnson w/contract > Rask w/contract

So if the Wild want to move Rask, they need to add.

bad contract swap...met Pens are sending 2 out and getting off scot-free.

Nah you need to add some serious sweetners to take on both Bjustad and JJ

Rask is still a serviceable 4C/13th forward. If a extremely overpaid one. He actually has a pretty good shot and scored more then a few timely and big goals for us this year. His skating however is absolute crap, which is why we call him Sloth over at HockeyWilderness.

Pateryn on the other hand is a extremely reliable and solid 3rd pairing rhs defensive defenseman.... when healthy. He has been out of the line up for pretty much all of this past season and towards his initial injury at the end of the 18-19 season.

Bjugstad when healthy is a serviceable middle sixer, but hasn't been able to stay in a lineup with any regularity for the last few seasons. He's also the same age as Pateryn, which is 28. If he could stay healthy, at the same price point as Rask, I would easily say he would be an immediate upgrade over Rask. But the fact remains that he cannot.

Jack Johnson is ****ing useless!

My final thought is a swap of Pateryn for Bjugstad one for one is a fair trade. So we're good there. Rask as bad as he is, is still better than JJ. Pens need to add for this to work.

Thanks for the assessment. I think we’re on the same page here, though I didn’t know the big problem with Rask is his skating. Regardless, I figured it would take a little extra to get the Wild to take on Johnson - the question is how much. With his Pens history, Guerin probably has a few lower level prospects he covets on the Pens.