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Créé par: Tkachinla

Équipe: 2020-21 Flames de Calgary

Date de création initiale: 25 août 2020

Publié: 26 août 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Using the Pacioretty trade as a comparable for this deal structure.

Pacioretty:
- One year remaining; **signs 4-year extension** (this was key to the deal)
- 29 years old
- Captain
- Regular season: 0.72 pts/game
- Playoffs: 0.50 pts/game

Gaudreau:
- Two years remaining
- 27 years old
- Not going to wear a letter
- Regular season: 0.96 pts/game
- Playoffs: 0.50 pts/game

Gaudreau is younger, more talented than Pacioretty.

Pacioretty trade value:
- Suzuki (#13 overall previous year)
- Tatar (27 years old; 0.51 pts/game)
- 2nd round pick (next draft)

Deal considerations:

- Rakell (27 years old; 0.63 pts/game) is better than Tatar (27 years old, 0.51 pts/game)
- A pick jump of 13 spots in the first round is worth a haul of picks. Costs a lot to move into the Top 10 of any draft, let alone this year's deep draft.

So this deal is a premium to the Pacioretty deal, in my view. But probably too much of a premium for ANA to do the deal.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Mangiapane, Andrew	3	3 500 000 $
Parsons, Tyler	1	750 000 $
Gawdin, Glenn	1	700 000 $
Kylington, Oliver	2	825 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Gustafsson, Erik	2	3 000 000 $
Talbot, Cam	2	3 500 000 $
Rieder, Tobias	2	800 000 $
Quine, Alan	1	700 000 $
Robinson, Buddy	1	700 000 $
Valiev, Rinat	1	700 000 $
Stone, Michael	1	775 000 $
Gudas, Radko	3	3 500 000 $
Maroon, Patrick	2	2 500 000 $

Transactions

CGY

Rakell, Rickard
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (ANA)

Détails additionnels:

#6 overall

(CGY moves up 13 spots)

ANA

Gaudreau, Johnny
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CGY)

Détails additionnels:

#19 overall

(ANA moves back 13 spots)

Rachats de contrats

Troy Brouwer: 1 500 000 $
Michael Stone: 1 166 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
24	81 500 000 $	71 639 805 $	0 $	457 500 $	9 860 195 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Rakell, Rickard 2 463 139 $2 463 139 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Monahan, Sean 6 375 000 $6 375 000 $ C, AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 3	Lindholm, Elias 4 850 000 $4 850 000 $ C, AD UFA - 4
Tkachuk, Matthew 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AD UFA - 2	Backlund, Mikael 5 350 000 $5 350 000 $ C NTC UFA - 4	Mangiapane, Andrew 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Lucic, Milan 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 3	Bennett, Sam 2 550 000 $2 550 000 $ C UFA - 1	Dubé, Dillon 778 333 $778 333 $ (32 500 $$32K) AG, AD, C RFA - 1
Maroon, Patrick 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Ryan, Derek 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Rieder, Tobias 800 000 $800 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
	Quine, Alan 700 000 $700 000 $ C UFA - 1	Robinson, Buddy 700 000 $700 000 $ AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Giordano, Mark 3 375 000 $3 375 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Andersson, Rasmus 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DD UFA - 6	Talbot, Cam 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 3
Hanifin, Noah 1 237 500 $1 237 500 $ DG UFA - 4	Gustafsson, Erik 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Rittich, David 1 375 000 $1 375 000 $ G UFA - 1
Välimäki, Juuso 894 166 $894 166 $ (425 000 $$425K) DG RFA - 1	Gudas, Radko 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3
Kylington, Oliver 825 000 $825 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Stone, Michael 775 000 $775 000 $ DD UFA - 1

26 août 2020 à 19 h 12

slomo

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Love the trade for Calgary and I would definitely go with it. Rakell is a 3 position player and a player that fits the Lindholm and Backlund mold. That would be an awesome Swedish Line! Put Monahan on with Tkachuk and Magiapane or Dube.

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26 août 2020 à 19 h 16

Stgstg55

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How about we give Boston pick and you keep your 1st

26 août 2020 à 19 h 18

Tkachinla

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Quoting: HadesOfSoCal

How about we give Boston pick and you keep your 1st

That BOS pick is basically a 2nd rounder (likely #26-31), and therefore makes the deal nowhere near fair value for Gaudreau.

26 août 2020 à 19 h 19

Stgstg55

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Quoting: Tkachinla

That BOS pick is basically a 2nd rounder (likely #26-31), and therefore makes the deal nowhere near fair value for Gaudreau.

Okay, then how about Boston pick guhle and Rakell

26 août 2020 à 19 h 22

Tkachinla

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Quoting: HadesOfSoCal

Okay, then how about Boston pick guhle and Rakell

Here's CGY LD depth chart:

Giordano, Hanifin, Valimaki, Kylington, Mackey, etc. Guhle is a 23 year old 2nd round pick who has never played more than 30 games in a season. So that's worth a 3rd rounder...still a long ways away from fair value, plus it's a player that doesn't have value for CGY given the LD depth of the Flames in the short- and long-term.

26 août 2020 à 19 h 24

Stgstg55

Xx_Zegras46_xX

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Quoting: Tkachinla

So what would you want in addition to Rakell + Boston 1st?

26 août 2020 à 19 h 32

Tkachinla

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Quoting: HadesOfSoCal

So what would you want in addition to Rakell + Boston 1st?

Probably one of ANA's high-end prospect centers (NHL ready by 2021) or another 1st rounder (2021).

*Suzuki, the 13th overall pick in 2017, is very valuable. He was the key piece of the Pacioretty deal according to Bergevin. I think we will be viewing Suzuki as a player who should've and could've gone Top 6 in that 2017 draft. It's already looking that way.

26 août 2020 à 19 h 36

Ledge_And_Dairy

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There is a massive difference between where Anaheim is as a team in terms of compete level vs where Vegas was. No chance they do this

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26 août 2020 à 19 h 36

Stgstg55

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Quoting: Tkachinla

Isaac Lundestrom?

Lenny7 a aimé ceci.

26 août 2020 à 20 h 29

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BuckoJoyde

Being wrong is ok

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We should just shut this convo down as @Ledge_And_Dairy stated. We will never give up our future for a guy with only 2 years left. As a matter of fact nobody will give up a top 15 picks for a soon to be UFA as this trade is completely off base.

26 août 2020 à 20 h 46

#11

flamesfan419

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I just don't get it....if you're trading Gaudreau you're looking to "ADD" assets, so I fail to see the point in swapping 1st rd picks.
Yes you move up, but it makes more sense to try and get "another" 1st rd pick rather than just moving selection spots.

27 août 2020 à 16 h 45

#12

Tkachinla

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

There is a massive difference between where Anaheim is as a team in terms of compete level vs where Vegas was. No chance they do this

ANA isn't in a rebuild though. Look at some of these names and ages a then look at their cap hits:

Gibson (27)

Lindholm (26)
Manson (28)
Fowler (28)

Getzlaf (35)
Henrique (30)
Silfverberg (29)

A rebuilding team does not have these 7 contracts on their books. Full stop. I think ANA would definitely look at any deals that improve their team today. There is a TON of money tied up in these guys who are all still very good players.

27 août 2020 à 16 h 49

#13

Tkachinla

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Quoting: flamesfan419

The difference between #6 and #19 in this year's draft is about 10 miles. And the cost to move up in the first round of any draft is multiple picks. Probably a 1st and two 2nds. So CGY is most certainly "adding assets" here. #6 overall is going to be a better player who is ready for the NHL sooner.

CGY's last two picks at #6: Tkachuk, Monahan.

CGY's recent picks in the #15-22 range: Valimaki, Poirier, Jankowski,

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