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Créé par: Philu916

Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York

Date de création initiale: 18 août 2020

Publié: 18 août 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

I will start this off with the reality that it’s possible I will be told no shot, what are you thinking etc. On that note... Kuzy

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Deangelo, Anthony	5	6 000 000 $
Lemieux, Brendan	3	1 750 000 $
Di Giuseppe, Phillip	2	900 000 $
Strome, Ryan	5	5 750 000 $
Georgiev, Alexandar	3	2 750 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Fast, Jesper		4	2 750 000 $
Bogosian, Zach		2	1 750 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Lafreniere, Alexis		3	925 000 $

Transactions

NYR

WSH

Buchnevich, Pavel
Deangelo, Anthony
Strome, Ryan
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CAR)

Détails additionnels:

So the way I see it, I’ve seen on here Lars Eller in trades for Strome or TDA. I don’t want to be here and try and offer a ton of smaller nonsense for a big guy... If Caps lose round 1, they’ll make changes. Strome can play 2/3 C and if 2 he will have offense with him. I put in Buch bc NYR are exploring trading him based on rumors. NYR have too many RHD especially with Nils coming in a year or 2. Kempny can be 2 LHD. Don’t know if this is too much or too little and can swap Chytil for someone if needed. Thoughts? They still have Backstrom as 1C here.

NYR

ANA

Lundqvist, Henrik

Détails additionnels:

Retirement

Rachats de contrats

Kevin Shattenkirk: 6 083 333 $
Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
Ryan Spooner: 300 000 $
Brad Richards: 0 $

Enfoui

Brendan Smith: 3 275 000 $ (4 350 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	74 283 133 $	0 $	9 212 500 $	7 216 867 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Panarin, Artemi 11 642 857 $11 642 857 $ AG NMC UFA - 6	Zibanejad, Mika 5 350 000 $5 350 000 $ C NMC UFA - 2	Kakko, Kaapo 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 650 000 $$3M) AD RFA - 2
Kreider, Chris 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AG NMC UFA - 7	Kuznetsov, Evgeny 3 900 000 $3 900 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 5	Kravtsov, Vitali 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD RFA - 2
Lafreniere, Alexis 925 000 $925 000 $	Chytil, Filip 894 166 $894 166 $ (350 000 $$350K) C, AG UFA - 1	Fast, Jesper 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Lemieux, Brendan 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Howden, Brett 863 333 $863 333 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Gauthier, Julien 863 333 $863 333 $ (300 000 $$300K) AD UFA - 1
	Barron, Morgan 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD RFA - 3

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Lindgren, Ryan 925 000 $925 000 $ (212 500 $$212K) DG RFA - 1	Trouba, Jacob 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 6
Kempný, Michal 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Fox, Adam 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD UFA - 2	Shesterkin, Igor 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 850 000 $$3M) G UFA - 1
Miller, K'Andre 925 000 $925 000 $ (300 000 $$300K) DG RFA - 3	Bogosian, Zach 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Georgiev, Alexandar 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ G UFA - 2
Staal, Marc 5 700 000 $5 700 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Di Giuseppe, Phillip 900 000 $900 000 $ AG UFA - 1

18 août 2020 à 10 h 53

Bcarlo25

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Can’t see hank walking away from 5.5 million.

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18 août 2020 à 11 h 3

Capitalfail67

Caps fan idk why

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none of those players help the capitals win right now.... Strome isnt good. hes a career 35 point guy besides 2 season... Deangleo only adds to the caps biggest issue which is defense. Buchnevich is interesting but my counter proposal is..... Nils Chytil and a 1st (or nyr 2nd)

18 août 2020 à 11 h 4

TheWhiteWhale

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Drastic underpay for Kuz

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18 août 2020 à 11 h 7

Sagecoll

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Kinda a remarkably poor trade here. Kuzy has less value than Trouba, while Buch and Deangelo are 2 of the more valuable players in the league. Here's an example of what your trade amounts to (essentially, before even getting to Strome + 1st your trade costs the Rangers 7-8 points in the standings). Then I provided an example of what would be an undersell for Buch/Deangelo based on their on-ice value (Cirelli/Sergachev).

Aim higher. Know your player values.

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18 août 2020 à 11 h 10

What_Are_you_Drouin

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Quoting: Sagecoll

Kinda ironic for you to tell someone to know their players' value when you say Trouba has more value than Kuznetsov

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18 août 2020 à 11 h 12

Capitalfail67

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Quoting: Sagecoll

Woof....Kuzy is a top 25 center Toruba isnt a top 25 defender.... hard pass capitals can get more than a 35 point center and a late 1st for a 70-80 point center lmfao. unless you are giving us panarin also Strome value is barely a 2nd

18 août 2020 à 11 h 13

CCRO1995

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Strome is bad, Caps decline

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18 août 2020 à 11 h 13

Capitalfail67

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Quoting: What_Are_you_Drouin

Kinda ironic for you to tell someone to know their players' value when you say Trouba has more value than Kuznetsov

lmfao thank you! then he said Strome and a 1st lol Strome averages 35 points a year.

18 août 2020 à 11 h 14

Sagecoll

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Quoting: What_Are_you_Drouin

Kinda ironic for you to tell someone to know their players' value when you say Trouba has more value than Kuznetsov

I'm not saying it. The data is.

18 août 2020 à 11 h 16

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Sagecoll

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

lol it's kinda crazy how much basically everyone is insanely worse when they're with Kuzy

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18 août 2020 à 11 h 16

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Capitalfail67

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Quoting: Sagecoll

I'm not saying it. The data is.

this is why people hate advance stat guys lol... you are comparing a defenseman to a center and the defenseman has a -1.6 xdef loland the offensive player has a +3.9xoff

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18 août 2020 à 11 h 17

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What_Are_you_Drouin

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Quoting: Sagecoll

I'm not saying it. The data is.

How does more TOI = more valuable lmao what kind of logic is that

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18 août 2020 à 11 h 21

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Sagecoll

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

this is why people hate advance stat guys lol... you are comparing a defenseman to a center and the defenseman has a -1.6 xdef loland the offensive player has a +3.9xoff

Kuzy gives up all of his offensive value on defense. Trouba is a positive defender at even strength, the negative value comes from the PK, which is all on Lindy Ruff's structure.

18 août 2020 à 11 h 22

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Sagecoll

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Quoting: What_Are_you_Drouin

How does more TOI = more valuable lmao what kind of logic is that

huh...? If you don't understand the data, just say that.

18 août 2020 à 11 h 23

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What_Are_you_Drouin

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Quoting: Sagecoll

huh...? If you don't understand the data, just say that.

you can find all the data in the world, Kuznetsov is a far superior player and its not even close

18 août 2020 à 11 h 26

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Capitalfail67

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Quoting: Sagecoll

lol it's kinda crazy how much basically everyone is insanely worse when they're with Kuzy

thats a score-adjusted shots list..... this is what you thinks makes players better/worse? its a massive graph that shows players are neither "good" or "bad" how many players are considered "bad" playing with him? how many are considered "good" playing without him? idk if you understand the graph. i think you see something you think is bad and just regurgitate it without knowing anything about it.

18 août 2020 à 11 h 27

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Sagecoll

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Quoting: What_Are_you_Drouin

you can find all the data in the world, Kuznetsov is a far superior player and its not even close

Well that ends the educated discussion I guess.

Anyway, I figure some fans like colors and stuff.

18 août 2020 à 11 h 28

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Sagecoll

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

lot to learn here it looks like.

18 août 2020 à 11 h 29

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Capitalfail67

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Quoting: What_Are_you_Drouin

you can find all the data in the world, Kuznetsov is a far superior player and its not even close

his data basically says Trouba is barely a good defender but has okay offensive upside... Kuzy has amazing offensive upside but terrible defense.... so if you want a poor mans Carlson who makes the same amount of money you could get trouba but youd regret it bc hes not very good at defense and above average at offense lol. i will take my chances with Kuzy poor defense than trade him for an overpaid average defensman lol SORRY

18 août 2020 à 11 h 29

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Mike_Gartner

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

Can’t see hank walking away from 5.5 million.

the guy has made $100M in his career, without endorsements.
$5.5M is nothing to him, even less with tax and escrow.
he is a proud guy - it is more likely he walks away from $5.5M than being 3rd on the depth chart...

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18 août 2020 à 11 h 32

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Capitalfail67

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Quoting: Sagecoll

lot to learn here it looks like.

no please mr i know it all tell me the difference between play A with Kuzy vs player A without... how big is the margin since you think you know it all lol please let me know. you keep sending graphs and all it shows is that Kuzy is elite at offense and terrible at defense we all know this.... but his offensive upside is why team want him. ALSO you are showing that Trouba is god awful at defense which his actual position. again hard pass little guy

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18 août 2020 à 11 h 33

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Philu916

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Have to ask respectfully, Buch had a career year on pace for 55 pts and would possibly play with Ovie... he’s only 25 so he can turn into a 60+ pt player. How is the value not there?

18 août 2020 à 11 h 34

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Bcarlo25

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Quoting: Mike_Gartner

5.5 million dollars is nothing to him? Dude....

18 août 2020 à 11 h 35

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Bcarlo25

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Quoting: Sagecoll

Well that ends the educated discussion I guess.

Anyway, I figure some fans like colors and stuff.

What’s wrong with just watching hockey and forming opinions?

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18 août 2020 à 11 h 37

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Capitalfail67

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Quoting: Philu916

Have to ask respectfully, Buch had a career year on pace for 55 pts and would possibly play with Ovie... he’s only 25 so he can turn into a 60+ pt player. How is the value not there?

i think hes interesting but if we use him in the top 6 then oshie would get bumped down.... my biggest issue would be Deangelo value and Strome value/ what they add to the capitals are much

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