I'm not sure Dunn even signs that... but we'd find a way to match.

What is that OS? Better to give 4.2Mx2 so you have to only give up a 2nd or actually go 6.3Mx5 so they don't match.

I don't know man. Habs need D men who have size and can clear the front of the net.
I'd prefer an OS for Sergachev. 6 yrs x 6 million

you think montreal would have learned their lesson from the last offersheet.

How do you match it? You've got heaps of NTCs on people like Steen and Bozak and you have to sign Pietrangelo. Let's say I'm low-balling it and it needs more money...Habs can afford it but Blues can't.

They aren't close to full NTC's, and Army is a bit of a wizard. And frankly, we might even let Petro walk before we part with Dunn. But yeah, you might need to up the $ anwyay if you hope to convince Dunn to leave the Blues. I doubt that gets it done for a five-year deal.

"You have to sign Pietrangelo" ... says who? He would've been signed by now if we had to. Probably wants too much money. Personally I think Dunn will have a contract before he is even eligible for an OS. He doesnt have much leverage to be holding out for big money. No arb rights and his low ice time kept his stat line suppressed.

I see no reason why WPG needs to make that trade?
I'm a CH fan, and would love to have Ehljers on the roster but the simple matter is that WPG doesn't need to shed salary, doesn't have a need for Domi or Mete (who are both RFA's) traded for a proven top 6 winger who's signed long term.
Also, why sign THomposon when we have Evans and Poehling in the fold.
Don't need Greiss, we have Lindgren and Primeau in the fold who are more than capable of backing up Price - only reason why Lindgren didn't get the shot this past season was because MB went out and signed Kinkaid or else he would have been back up from the start.
Dunn is a good OS but you'll need to offer WAYYYY more than that and if that's the case may as well OS Sergachev.

Domi and Mere aren't worth giving up Ehlers for.

Sure man. If you want to overpay Dunn and let Pietrangelo walk good luck. But actually look at your contracts. Perron and Bozak are M-NTC. The rest either have a full NTC or there's no way you'd ever move them (e.g., Schwartz or Parayko aren't going to be traded). So basically if you're Doug Armstrong your options are:

1. Let Pietrangelo walk

2. Assuming letting him walk is a terrible idea, find takers at pennies on the dollar for each of Perron, Bozak and Allen. Now, Bozak is overpaid and Allen isn't going to be a #1 anywhere anymore, so he's also overpaid as a backup. That means you're giving up assets just to get rid of them. Okay sure, you do that. That leaves Perron. Perron is a great player at a great price. If you want to pay Dunn at 4.5 or 5, sure, you can afford it if you get rid of Perron, Bozak and Allen, but that's a steep price to pay when you already have a lot of money in your RDs. Let's say you do it and you're can pay Dunn. Sure. Then the next year with a flat salary cap, even with Steen coming off the books you still can't afford to pay Robert Thomas and Binnington big raises.

Bottom line is yes, you're right. They can match and still keep Pietrangelo. However, that's a big price to pay to not be able to be sure you can pay Binnington and Thomas the next year.

I agree Ehlers is better. The thing is though...the Jets need centres and d-men, and they have too many wingers as it is. There's definitely tradeoffs here, but it is a win-win.

I'd prefer Sergachev than Dunn but the Habs can't afford both Ehlers and Sergachev. They can afford both Ehlers and Dunn.

As for it not being enough for Dunn, maybe they can offer more but I'm not sure that the Blues could even match $4.5M without it being a real problem for them. They'd need to dump Bozak, Allen and Perron to keep Dunn at $4.5M and also sign Pietrangelo. That's a huge sacrifice when you consider that they already have a stacked D even without Dunn.

As for why Winnipeg would want Domi; maybe they don't. I don't know. What I do know is they want better centres. That's for sure. Tell me who they can go out and get instead without giving up value?

Fair enough. If you want to see him walk good luck.

No, it's a slam dunk win for Montreal and an outright fleecing to the Jets. Winnipeg would not consider it.

Again, I agree that Ehlers is better than Domi. I'm not disagreeing with that. But seriously, do you need Centres or Wingers more in Winnipeg? You've got to pay Roslovic and Vesalainen is coming up. You already have Connor, Laine and Wheeler. Little is unreliable. If the Jets didn't think they needed Centres, then why did they go for Statsny for a 1st? Why did they go for Hayes for a 1st? Why did they pick up an under-performing Eakin?

...and while I agree, Ehlers is better than Domi, look at the last 5 years of play: Domi PPG = .67, Ehlers PPG = .70. Plus the Habs would throw in more pieces here and Domi would be cheaper than Ehlers. How is that a fleecing?

It's a fleecing in that Mete is a bottom pairing guy and a 3rd isn't much, so they aren't meaningful additions when you are asking for a 1st line winger.

Domi is an okay option if nothing else is available, but he's poor defensively and can force his way to UFA in two years if he wishes, so far from ideal. Domi would be fine, but he doesn't justify or require the Jets putting any of our top 5 on the line for.

While I'm a Habs fan first I'm also a really big Jets fan. Honest reality is that there aren't a lot of options available right now on the market for young-ish centres that can put up points. I know some people have floated the idea of just making Wheeler a full-time C. That could work but would probably be disappointing. Anyway, we'll see what happens.

I agree, there aren't a lot of options. The Jets just have to be careful on any trade they make so that we actually make the team better and not just move the top 6 hole from center to wing or whatever.

That's why I'm against moving any of our top 5 for Domi, because at best we break even and move the hole from center to wing. Our 1st round pick shouldn't be in play either due to Domi's contract situation.