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Draft Trade Down

Créé par: lamar1226
Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 11 août 2020
Publié: 11 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Perfetti, Cole
3925 000 $
Byfield, Quinton
3925 000 $
Transactions
NYR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (SJS)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
#3 Quinton Byfield
#5 Cole Perfetti

I wouldn't do this but with our LW spot being locked up Laf would have to switch to C or Kreider might have to play RW
OTT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1883 500 000 $62 944 800 $0 $8 362 500 $20 555 200 $
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
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UFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 6
Byfield, Quinton
925 000 $925 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AD
RFA - 2
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Perfetti, Cole
925 000 $925 000 $
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
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UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
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RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
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RFA - 3
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
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UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
G
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5 700 000 $5 700 000 $
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11 août 2020 à 10 h 25
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Lol, no.
11 août 2020 à 10 h 30
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lol no. 3 and 5 are worth more than 1. Laf isnt Mcdavid/Crosby. Stutzle/Byfield could easily be as valuable as him. Nvm the Isles pick in here too
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11 août 2020 à 10 h 31
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Ya don’t see Ottawa looking too closely at that
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11 août 2020 à 10 h 32
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Lol, no.


Guy, if you don't like it that's fine, comment on why you think your way or just move on. a "lol no" comment adds nothing to the fun of this site or discussion.
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11 août 2020 à 10 h 33
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Guy, if you don't like it that's fine, comment on why you think your way or just move on. a "lol no" comment adds nothing to the fun of this site or discussion.


Sorry, I think this is a very poor decision and Lafreniere>Perfetti who sucks, and Byfield.
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11 août 2020 à 10 h 35
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Sorry, I think this is a very poor decision and Lafreniere>Perfetti who sucks, and Byfield.


I feel the same way, just thought it would be interesting to prioritize our needs while getting decent value back. very excited to get Laf
11 août 2020 à 10 h 36
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I feel the same way, just thought it would be interesting to prioritize our needs while getting decent value back. very excited to get Laf


If you do that take Byfield and Rossi
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11 août 2020 à 10 h 40
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
If you do that take Byfield and Rossi


I was honestly just going based tankathons ranking. Didn't put much thought into that 5th pick lol
11 août 2020 à 11 h 1
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Perfetti doesn’t suck...
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11 août 2020 à 11 h 3
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I could pick any two players in that range at 3 and 5 and guaranteed get more out of those two players over their careers than Lafreniere on his own. Byfield + Perfetti, Stutzle + Rossi, Raymond + Drysdale, all would be better combined, and you think Ottawa adds another 1st on top of that? You're nuts.

Lafreniere is a fantastic player, but he's not so far above the competition that you bet the farm to get him. He's not a premium position player like a C or RD. He's not the next McDavid.
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11 août 2020 à 15 h 8
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rule no 1. never trade the no 1 prospect in the world. not for ur 3 and 5 and more. u take the no1 and u run with it.
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11 août 2020 à 15 h 26
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rule no 1. never trade the no 1 prospect in the world. not for ur 3 and 5 and more. u take the no1 and u run with it.


That's not always accurate.

- 2011 Nugent-Hopkins was the #1, #3 was Huberdeau and #5 was Ryan Strome. It's close, but then consider 6-10 picks were Zibanejad, Scheifele, Couterier and Hamilton.
- 2012 Yakupov was the consensus #1, Edmonton would've been better off trading that pick for Galchenyuk and Rielly.
- 2014 Ekblad was the #1, would you rather have him or Draisaitl (#3) and Dal Colle (#5)? William Nylander was 8 and Ehlers 9, that might be like Holtz and Raymond of the 2020 draft.
- 2017 Hischier at #1 pales in comparison to the #3 and 5 picks: Heiskanen and Pettersson.
- 2019 its early yet, but would you rather have Jack Hughes (#1) or Kirby Dach (#3) and Alex Turcotte (#5)? I know I'd rather the second option.

Unless there's a generational talent available, trading down from #1 could be a very sound strategy. Even an elite talent like Matthews in 2016 could be argued against PLD (#3) and Matthew Tkachuk (#6), or MacKinnon in 2013 vs Seth Jones (#4) and Monahan (#6). It's not as clear-cut as you seem to think.
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Quoting: CD282
That's not always accurate.

- 2011 Nugent-Hopkins was the #1, #3 was Huberdeau and #5 was Ryan Strome. It's close, but then consider 6-10 picks were Zibanejad, Scheifele, Couterier and Hamilton.
- 2012 Yakupov was the consensus #1, Edmonton would've been better off trading that pick for Galchenyuk and Rielly.
- 2014 Ekblad was the #1, would you rather have him or Draisaitl (#3) and Dal Colle (#5)? William Nylander was 8 and Ehlers 9, that might be like Holtz and Raymond of the 2020 draft.
- 2017 Hischier at #1 pales in comparison to the #3 and 5 picks: Heiskanen and Pettersson.
- 2019 its early yet, but would you rather have Jack Hughes (#1) or Kirby Dach (#3) and Alex Turcotte (#5)? I know I'd rather the second option.

Unless there's a generational talent available, trading down from #1 could be a very sound strategy. Even an elite talent like Matthews in 2016 could be argued against PLD (#3) and Matthew Tkachuk (#6), or MacKinnon in 2013 vs Seth Jones (#4) and Monahan (#6). It's not as clear-cut as you seem to think.


No. trust me, everyone is an expert here.
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12 août 2020 à 12 h 3
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That's not always accurate.

- 2011 Nugent-Hopkins was the #1, #3 was Huberdeau and #5 was Ryan Strome. It's close, but then consider 6-10 picks were Zibanejad, Scheifele, Couterier and Hamilton.
- 2012 Yakupov was the consensus #1, Edmonton would've been better off trading that pick for Galchenyuk and Rielly.
- 2014 Ekblad was the #1, would you rather have him or Draisaitl (#3) and Dal Colle (#5)? William Nylander was 8 and Ehlers 9, that might be like Holtz and Raymond of the 2020 draft.
- 2017 Hischier at #1 pales in comparison to the #3 and 5 picks: Heiskanen and Pettersson.
- 2019 its early yet, but would you rather have Jack Hughes (#1) or Kirby Dach (#3) and Alex Turcotte (#5)? I know I'd rather the second option.

Unless there's a generational talent available, trading down from #1 could be a very sound strategy. Even an elite talent like Matthews in 2016 could be argued against PLD (#3) and Matthew Tkachuk (#6), or MacKinnon in 2013 vs Seth Jones (#4) and Monahan (#6). It's not as clear-cut as you seem to think.


yeah but did they do that trade? NO
u take the no1. and u play him. esp when his name is Lafreniere
12 août 2020 à 12 h 15
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No. trust me, everyone is an expert here.


not claiming to be an expert, myb u are? of course its all subjective but trust me, other than a couple get rich quick dummies the ranger fan base is ecstatic that we finally have a no1 pick we can watch grow. and the scouting on him is that he is pretty darn good. and the clips i see of his game is a beast on skates. so yeah im taking the number one i dont care what you offer me, if im the rangers -that is. and im 100 pct sure they aint trading him either. 100PCT.
12 août 2020 à 12 h 55
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Quoting: CharlieComp88
not claiming to be an expert, myb u are? of course its all subjective but trust me, other than a couple get rich quick dummies the ranger fan base is ecstatic that we finally have a no1 pick we can watch grow. and the scouting on him is that he is pretty darn good. and the clips i see of his game is a beast on skates. so yeah im taking the number one i dont care what you offer me, if im the rangers -that is. and im 100 pct sure they aint trading him either. 100PCT.


i wasn't coming at you specifically or claiming to be an expert... far from it actually. I was trying to be funny and sarcastic about most of the people who comment here who think they are 100% right all the time. I agree with you, i would take the 1st pick but i would definitely be tempted as a gm if Ottawa offered us something along the lines of my post for the exact reasons that @CD282 mentioned.
12 août 2020 à 12 h 58
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yeah but did they do that trade? NO


No, but they should have. I'm not saying trading #1 for #3 + #5 this year is for sure a slam dunk win, but it sure looks that way to many people and history supports the proposition.

Here's a tell: I haven't seen a single Ottawa fan support the idea. They'd rather have 3+5 than #1.
12 août 2020 à 14 h 11
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No, but they should have. I'm not saying trading #1 for #3 + #5 this year is for sure a slam dunk win, but it sure looks that way to many people and history supports the proposition.

Here's a tell: I haven't seen a single Ottawa fan support the idea. They'd rather have 3+5 than #1.


they might want to stay put i get that. ur getting some good players. but there is something special about having the no1. and we never had it. and fan base is beyond excited scooping up seasons. and this kid is pretty special, not just from a skill perspective but from a leader and compete perspective--- i just say there is nothing u can offer that makes us turn away from him. would be huge mistake no matter what 3 and 5 turn into (or worse dont!) so we will take no11@1, who reminds us of another special 11
 
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