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Créé par: Ragsandbluesfan
Équipe: 2020-21 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 7 août 2020
Publié: 7 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
22 750 000 $
1700 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Lafreniere, Alexis
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Donato, Ryan
  2. Spurgeon, Jared
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
pens keep it so it's their 2021 1st
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3.
MIN
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar [Droits de RFA]
NYR
  1. Greenway, Jordan [Droits de RFA]
4.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $71 344 091 $0 $925 000 $10 155 909 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 538 462 $7 538 462 $
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NMC
UFA - 5
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1 625 000 $1 625 000 $
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UFA - 1
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
AG
UFA - 1
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1 487 500 $1 487 500 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
Lafreniere, Alexis
925 000 $925 000 $
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
AG, AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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DG
NMC
UFA - 5
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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4 166 667 $4 166 667 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
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785 000 $785 000 $
G
UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
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UFA - 1

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7 août 2020 à 23 h 36
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@firezfurx similar enough?
7 août 2020 à 23 h 38
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
@firezfurx similar enough?


I don't know. Cut the 1st and I'd do Nylander instead. Marner definitely improved in OT and I've decided he is amazing again.
7 août 2020 à 23 h 40
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I don't know. Cut the 1st and I'd do Nylander instead. Marner definitely improved in OT and I've decided he is amazing again.


Tbh deal
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7 août 2020 à 23 h 42
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This deal is very bad for the Leafs. Marner >>> Spurgeon.

Marner is overpaid but Spurgeon is signed for way too much term (expires when he is 37).

Marner will be improving over the course of his contract whereas Spurgeon will be declining.

It would have to be Dumba + Fiala
7 août 2020 à 23 h 42
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I freaking love Spurgeon but 7 years at $7.5m starting at the age of 31 with a NMC is tough.
7 août 2020 à 23 h 43
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Quoting: firezfurx
I don't know. Cut the 1st and I'd do Nylander instead. Marner definitely improved in OT and I've decided he is amazing again.


You're joking right? Nylander was a beast this game got us into the game with his goal.

Spurgeon signed for too much term and AAV.
7 août 2020 à 23 h 46
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
You're joking right? Nylander was a beast this game got us into the game with his goal.

Spurgeon signed for too much term and AAV.


Ya I know I love Nylander. The problem is we still have a serious whole on defense. I'd probably not make that trade but not everything on this site has to be super serious. Just looking at the possibility.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
I freaking love Spurgeon but 7 years at $7.5m starting at the age of 31 with a NMC is tough.


Its him or dumba and spurgeons defense more makes up for any possible contract concerns and the gap between him and dumba in terms of age and cap hit
7 août 2020 à 23 h 54
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Its him or dumba and spurgeons defense more makes up for any possible contract concerns and the gap between him and dumba in terms of age and cap hit


Spurgeon is signed way too long. The average player declines significantly before the age of 35 and Spurgeon's contract brings him all the way to age 37...

Quoting: firezfurx
Ya I know I love Nylander. The problem is we still have a serious whole on defense. I'd probably not make that trade but not everything on this site has to be super serious. Just looking at the possibility.


The guy that goes if we need to reallocate cap space is Marner. His contract is the least cost effective of the big 4.

If we move Marner it allows us to get another guy like Nylander and add 4M extra on the blue line or we could add a game breaker like Pietrangelo.
8 août 2020 à 0 h 1
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Spurgeon is signed way too long. The average player declines significantly before the age of 35 and Spurgeon's contract brings him all the way to age 37...


Well spurgeon isn't an average player, he plays a smarter and more physically efficient game meaning he'll age better than most Dmen
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8 août 2020 à 0 h 13
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Well spurgeon isn't an average player, he plays a smarter and more physically efficient game meaning he'll age better than most Dmen


His speed will drop within the next couple years. Plus Donato is pretty useless for Toronto with Robertson playing the 3rd line.

A deal I'd do would be Marner + Dermott --> Spurgeon + Fiala

Marner >> Spurgeon. It would take a significant piece to shift the value and the Leafs aren't interested in late 1sts (they aren't rebuilding).
8 août 2020 à 0 h 17
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Well spurgeon isn't an average player, he plays a smarter and more physically efficient game meaning he'll age better than most Dmen


Now that could be an interesting deal, Spergeron has the best stick handling of any RD and can steal a puck from anyone. Sure we lose a 30+ goal scorer but to acquire a RHD like him i say the risk is worth + we get Donato at the cost of dermott sure.
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Now that could be an interesting deal, Spergeron has the best stick handling of any RD and can steal a puck from anyone. Sure we lose a 30+ goal scorer but to acquire a RHD like him i say the risk is worth + we get Donato at the cost of dermott sure.


Not to mention the 1st
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Not to mention the 1st


yeah that makes it all the more sweet. How much u think donato will extend for? Cause i see either a bridge deal or a long term team friendly deal
8 août 2020 à 0 h 32
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yeah that makes it all the more sweet. How much u think donato will extend for? Cause i see either a bridge deal or a long term team friendly deal


i can see a 1 year that keeps him an RFA or you take the 2 years, he goes straight to UFA and you replace from within
8 août 2020 à 0 h 35
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i can see a 1 year that keeps him an RFA or you take the 2 years, he goes straight to UFA and you replace from within


true im high on abruzzese as torts brother (ironic enough) loves this kid and expects him to be big in the NHL. Plays a solid 2 way game and should be an excellent 3c for us in the future.
8 août 2020 à 2 h 3
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I mean I love Marner but moving Spurgeon (or any of our D) should net us the biggest need we have: a #1 center.
8 août 2020 à 3 h 39
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I mean I love Marner but moving Spurgeon (or any of our D) should net us the biggest need we have: a #1 center.


Spurgeon is the only d-man I'd trade for Marner. I want a center back, yes, but really just getting rid of his awful contract (it's worse than Marner's) is a win in my book.

I don't like Turris much either but getting rid of Zucc would be a win too.

I don't see either NYR (Lundqvist is done) or Jets (Dub is done) being interested in the other trade.

Win the lottery and pick Byfield and our FWDs would be set for years.
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8 août 2020 à 6 h 59
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Its him or dumba and spurgeons defense more makes up for any possible contract concerns and the gap between him and dumba in terms of age and cap hit


I mean, there are other teams in the league other than Minnesota.
8 août 2020 à 9 h 12
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Spurgeon is the only d-man I'd trade for Marner. I want a center back, yes, but really just getting rid of his awful contract (it's worse than Marner's) is a win in my book.

I don't like Turris much either but getting rid of Zucc would be a win too.

I don't see either NYR (Lundqvist is done) or Jets (Dub is done) being interested in the other trade.

Win the lottery and pick Byfield and our FWDs would be set for years.


Idk why hank being done means the rangers wouldn't be interested, hank is still more than capable of about 20 starts and thats all we need
8 août 2020 à 9 h 23
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Nope Marners value is worth more then an aging Spurgeon+Donato+1st round pick.
 
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