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Créé par: sabertooth12
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 30 juill. 2020
Publié: 30 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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BUF
  1. Gardiner, Jake
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Gardiner seems pretty expendable in Carolina with a left side of Slavvin/Skjei/Fleury/Bean- even if they don't resign Edmundson or Vatanen. Would save them 3 years @ 4m in cap
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  1. Johansson, Marcus
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Picks to balance out on either side- mostly a cap-based trade
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  1. Määttä, Olli
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I see a lot of Blackhawks fans on this site always complaining about Maatta, so with a left side of Keith/De Haan/Koekkoek/Beaudin/Carlsson and eventually Vlasic/Krys, is he expendable?
CHI
    Marcus Johannsson

    Picks to balance out on either side- mostly a cap-based trade
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    30 juill. 2020 à 15 h 49
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    1. Taking on Gardiner at 4m for another 3 years is not good.

    2. I think CHI would rather just buy Maatta out.
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    30 juill. 2020 à 15 h 57
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    I think we just trade him for a pick.
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    30 juill. 2020 à 15 h 58
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    I like mojo but next year CHIs top 9 will be too crowded for him. Would rather see a pick, low end prospect, or buyout for Maatta.
    30 juill. 2020 à 16 h 6
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    Quoting: LindyRuffRider
    1. Taking on Gardiner at 4m for another 3 years is not good.

    2. I think CHI would rather just buy Maatta out.


    I disagree. Yes 3 years is not ideal, but you think 2 years of a Gardiner/Joki second pairing would be that bad? The point of taking on Gardiner is we let McCabe walk next year and give time for Samuelsson/Johnson to develop into Gardiner's second pairing position. The guy has good analytics and just had a down year
    30 juill. 2020 à 16 h 7
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    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    I think we just trade him for a pick.


    What if you can't trade him for a pick and you need to take back a similar amount of salary? Would this trade still be interesting?
    30 juill. 2020 à 16 h 9
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    Quoting: sabertooth12
    What if you can't trade him for a pick and you need to take back a similar amount of salary? Would this trade still be interesting?


    It’s hard to agree to, we have a very crowded forward core for next season and I can’t see him getting significant ice time here. If you added a pick it might be easier.
    30 juill. 2020 à 16 h 10
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    Quoting: CFMan
    I like mojo but next year CHIs top 9 will be too crowded for him. Would rather see a pick, low end prospect, or buyout for Maatta.


    Ditto to the question I asked Stan_Bowman, what do you think?
    30 juill. 2020 à 16 h 11
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    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    It’s hard to agree to, we have a very crowded forward core for next season and I can’t see him getting significant ice time here. If you added a pick it might be easier.


    Fair point, will probably depend on if anything happens with Strome
    30 juill. 2020 à 16 h 15
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    Quoting: sabertooth12
    Ditto to the question I asked Stan_Bowman, what do you think?


    Depends on the forward situation for CHI but if it was just a trade about exchanging similiar cap hits I'd do it.
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    30 juill. 2020 à 16 h 28
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    Quoting: sabertooth12
    I disagree. Yes 3 years is not ideal, but you think 2 years of a Gardiner/Joki second pairing would be that bad? The point of taking on Gardiner is we let McCabe walk next year and give time for Samuelsson/Johnson to develop into Gardiner's second pairing position. The guy has good analytics and just had a down year


    We already have a lot of guys like Gardiner. Offensive guys that are prone to lapses on defense. Add on that he just turned 30 + his back issues + 3 more years at 4M and it's no bueno from me. Would rather target a cheaper more defensively responsible guy.

    His analytics this year were really bad WAR / GAR / SPAR
    30 juill. 2020 à 19 h 24
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    BUF can have maata but we don't want players back. Already have too many middle 6 wingers
    31 juill. 2020 à 5 h 56
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    Gardiner is worth more than that. The dude looks on fire in camp and looked like a stud in the exhibition game. I know it's only an exhibition game, but even before the break, Gardiner looked like a man possessed.
    31 juill. 2020 à 13 h 34
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Gardiner is worth more than that. The dude looks on fire in camp and looked like a stud in the exhibition game. I know it's only an exhibition game, but even before the break, Gardiner looked like a man possessed.


    His contract heavily holds back his value, but I think he would be perfect for Buffalo
    31 juill. 2020 à 13 h 35
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    Quoting: LindyRuffRider
    We already have a lot of guys like Gardiner. Offensive guys that are prone to lapses on defense. Add on that he just turned 30 + his back issues + 3 more years at 4M and it's no bueno from me. Would rather target a cheaper more defensively responsible guy.

    His analytics this year were really bad WAR / GAR / SPAR


    I know he had a down year, but his defensive analytics over his career aren't terrible. It's not what he's known for, but I don't think it's a liability. Him and Joki would be perfect and he would replace Risto on our PP2
    31 juill. 2020 à 13 h 36
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    His contract heavily holds back his value, but I think he would be perfect for Buffalo


    3 years at 4 mil for a guy who's held a 2.5 PPG rate for the past 6 months is unfair value?
     
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