I mean, the Gaudreau trade doesn't look good. But why trade for him in the first place? Lafreniere looks ready to step in on the 2nd line, and with a vet like Trocheck he would be in a great place to succeed.

Flames counter with Nino, Bean and Necas for Johnny

why offer sheet Kubalik with Laf coming on?

just keep one of Nino and Dzingel. No Gaudreau and no Kubalik.
Get Fast to be on Staal's right side. Let McGinn or Cotton be on the 4th line left side.
Laf-A-T
Svech-Tro-Necas
Foeg-Staal-Fast
McGinn/Cotton-Geekie-Marty
is a good 4 lines.

Dude whaaaat

??

Necas > Johnny. Carolina counter with Bean, Nino and a lottery protected 2022 1st for Monahan, Lindholm and Gaudreau, because apparently we're using no logic here

I'ma be honest. I meant to make this about Laf. Then forgot and made everything else, looked at the title and went "oh sh*t"

Necas is not worth more than Johnny, you have got to be out of your goddamned mind lol

You think you can get Johnny for a cap dump, a couple of 2nds and a D prospect that is not even expansion exempt, you're the one using no logic here.

The fact you're calling Nino a cap dump proves you know nothing about him LOL. Also, Bean is the most NHL ready D prospect in Hockey

Necas is 21, a rookie who has the ability to play center, is a better skater and is already putting up better numbers than Gaudreau did at his age. shut up already man

Nino was on pace for 13 goals and 35 points with a cap hit north of $5 million. He's a cap dump.

I know what Necas is, and he's not worth more than Gaudreau. Quite the detachment from reality you have going on here lol

Necas is a beast, he'll never put up numbers like Johnny but he plays a two way game from the C position, is big (6'2 200) and is only 21. That projection is more valuable than an undersized winger who doesn't show up come playoff time IMO.

Haha, I missed this part. When Gaudreau was 21 he put up 0.8 points per game in the NHL, that's way better than Necas and his 0.56. You need to get your facts straight before being such an aggressive blow hard.

Yawn....

Dont start with him, his Canes are all better then other teams best players.

Lol I'm just saying I think a lot of people would take a big center who plays a two way game and will average 60-70 pts in a couple of seasons. I firmly believe he will anyway. It's not really a knock on Johnny he's a beast too

Fair enough, I like Necas too and also see his potential (otherwise why would I want to trade Johnny for him?) but potential is just that until it's realized. On one hand you have Gaudreau who has realized his potential, then on the other hand you've this other poster claiming that the unrealized potential is worth more than the proven commodity, plus he doesn't even have his facts straight lol.

ppg isn't created equal. Johnny was playing almost 18 minutes a game and and Necas 14 minutes. When you look at PPMP, points per minute played, they are much closer at .045 (JG) and .039 (MN). That gap of .006 at Necas' 14:10 TOI/g over the left off 18 games missed due to C-19, the difference would equal to a 1.5 points, total. Not a huge disparity the way PPG makes it seem. When you break the playing time down too, JG had 1 more minute per game of PP time than Necas, giving him more favorable scoring ice time. Both played almost non-existent PK time. 2 minutes, total, for MN and 1 minute, total, for JG.

I am not in the JG vs MN argument here. I would much rather keep MN over losing him to acquire JG anyways. Contract control, position, skating, and expansion draft exemption considered.

So the OPs assertion was still wrong then?

1.5 points versus 80 more minutes of PP time. Y'all duke it out to see who is right.

Well since he claimed that Necas is already producing more than Johnny did when Johnny was his age, and my claim was that Johnny produced 0.8 points per game as a 21 year old rookie, and Necas produced 0.56 points per game as a 21 year old rookie, then it's pretty clear what he claimed is wrong, and what I claimed is right.

Good for you for digging more deeply into the numbers, but it didn't disprove my statement, and certainly didn't prove his.

bruh, u r 1 of those guys that makes up random things in support of players u like

bruh, u seriously think necas was a bettr rookie?, then u need 2 rethink what "BETTER" means