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Ignoring Eichel

Créé par: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 19 juill. 2020
Publié: 19 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Just continue the rebuild.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
24 500 000 $
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43 250 000 $
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1735 000 $
74 000 000 $
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  1. Tierney, Chris [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
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  1. Montour, Brandon [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
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19 juill. 2020 à 22 h 29
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really do not like that Avs trade

Dont mess with the chemistry of the team moving 4 roster players out who have had great seasons for them.
Reinhart is a nice add but they would have to do it in a different way, dont destory the locker room for no reason
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19 juill. 2020 à 22 h 35
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Quoting: coga16
really do not like that Avs trade

Dont mess with the chemistry of the team moving 4 roster players out who have had great seasons for them.
Reinhart is a nice add but they would have to do it in a different way, dont destory the locker room for no reason


Yeah I agree with that.

There's no reason for Johansson to be included in this deal, so maybe remove him and Compher, and change Donskoi into a pick. Graves + Kaut + pick should be enough for Reinhardt. That way you're not gutting the Avs lockeroom, while only moving one player off the roster (who is also an RFA as well), a prospect, and picks.
19 juill. 2020 à 22 h 40
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Quoting: Richard88
Yeah I agree with that.

There's no reason for Johansson to be included in this deal, so maybe remove him and Compher, and change Donskoi into a pick. Graves + Kaut + pick should be enough for Reinhardt. That way you're not gutting the Avs lockeroom, while only moving one player off the roster (who is also an RFA as well), a prospect, and picks.


Wouldn't exactly called Kaut a roster player. Hes played all of 9 games...

The pick would need to be a 1st since it would be a late one. Also I'm not sure why you would need that many right wingers.
19 juill. 2020 à 23 h 22
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Wouldn't exactly called Kaut a roster player. Hes played all of 9 games...

The pick would need to be a 1st since it would be a late one. Also I'm not sure why you would need that many right wingers.


He’s played 9 games because the Avs want to slide his contract.
19 juill. 2020 à 23 h 58
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Wouldn't exactly called Kaut a roster player. Hes played all of 9 games...

The pick would need to be a 1st since it would be a late one. Also I'm not sure why you would need that many right wingers.


I didn't call Kaut a roster player.

"Graves + Kaut + pick should be enough for Reinhardt. (....), while only moving one player off the roster (who is also an RFA as well), a prospect, and picks.

One player off the roster (who is also an RFA) = Graves
A prospect = Kaut
Picks = Whatever value is needed to balance the trade.

As for your RW comment, Compher is our 3C, so we'd have Reinhardt as 2RW, Donskoi as 3RW, and Calvert as 4RW.
20 juill. 2020 à 0 h 26
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Quoting: coga16
really do not like that Avs trade

Dont mess with the chemistry of the team moving 4 roster players out who have had great seasons for them.
Reinhart is a nice add but they would have to do it in a different way, dont destory the locker room for no reason


'destroy the locker room' is a bit dramatic; winning would take care of that.

I like this deal as it frees up the extra two years commitment of Donskoi & Compher. Any roster holes can be filled with cheap Vets like Riley Sheahan
20 juill. 2020 à 0 h 46
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'destroy the locker room' is a bit dramatic; winning would take care of that.

I like this deal as it frees up the extra two years commitment of Donskoi & Compher. Any roster holes can be filled with cheap Vets like Riley Sheahan


It can destroy a locker room sending the bad message to
The players, you had one of the best seasons the team
Could have hoped for, to thank you for that we will trade multiple well liked guys who had solid seasons

It can create major mistrust bw locker room and mgmt, that’s how it can destroy

You reward the guys who battled and rose to the challenge, you don’t ship them off
20 juill. 2020 à 11 h 28
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Quoting: coga16
It can destroy a locker room sending the bad message to
The players, you had one of the best seasons the team
Could have hoped for, to thank you for that we will trade multiple well liked guys who had solid seasons

It can create major mistrust bw locker room and mgmt, that’s how it can destroy

You reward the guys who battled and rose to the challenge, you don’t ship them off


Players understand its a business, plus I don't think trading for 2 proven NHL players is sending a bad message, I would say it's sending a message to take the next step.
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20 juill. 2020 à 12 h 19
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Quoting: Richard88
I didn't call Kaut a roster player.

"Graves + Kaut + pick should be enough for Reinhardt. (....), while only moving one player off the roster (who is also an RFA as well), a prospect, and picks.

One player off the roster (who is also an RFA) = Graves
A prospect = Kaut
Picks = Whatever value is needed to balance the trade.

As for your RW comment, Compher is our 3C, so we'd have Reinhardt as 2RW, Donskoi as 3RW, and Calvert as 4RW.


He said we are giving 4 roster players who have had great seasons. I only had 4 players in the trade and Kaut is one of them.

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Players understand its a business, plus I don't think trading for 2 proven NHL players is sending a bad message, I would say it's sending a message to take the next step.


I did the Colarado side (didn't publish) and thought the team was actually better.
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20 juill. 2020 à 12 h 23
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Players understand its a business, plus I don't think trading for 2 proven NHL players is sending a bad message, I would say it's sending a message to take the next step.


Compher and donskoi are younger versions of Mojo, that’s not a business move that’s just dumb asset management
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20 juill. 2020 à 13 h 4
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Compher and donskoi are younger versions of Mojo, that’s not a business move that’s just dumb asset management


Buffalo needs value back for Reinhart. Of course Mojo isnt equal to those 2.
20 juill. 2020 à 13 h 35
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Buffalo needs value back for Reinhart. Of course Mojo isnt equal to those 2.


And to my point, you don’t your roster moving 4 guys from it for reinhart

They need value back but the idea is to add to the depth not take 4 guys out and put 2 back in

Standard pick prospect and 1 younger roster player,
21 juill. 2020 à 20 h 37
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It can destroy a locker room sending the bad message to
The players, you had one of the best seasons the team
Could have hoped for, to thank you for that we will trade multiple well liked guys who had solid seasons

It can create major mistrust bw locker room and mgmt, that’s how it can destroy

You reward the guys who battled and rose to the challenge, you don’t ship them off


They traded Peter Forsberg's best friend, and it still worked out
21 juill. 2020 à 21 h 47
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They traded Peter Forsberg's best friend, and it still worked out


How is that relevant to this avs team, their Locker room and their mgmt coaching group
23 juill. 2020 à 17 h 27
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How is that relevant to this avs team, their Locker room and their mgmt coaching group


The trades are both clear upgrades, aimed at pushing the team over the top, and require sacrificing major pieces.

The more I think about it, the more I like this trade.
23 juill. 2020 à 17 h 29
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Compher and donskoi are younger versions of Mojo, that’s not a business move that’s just dumb asset management


This is a key component of the trade, as it creates the necessary cap space to afford 92 and 8 next contracts.
 
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