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Ranking the best forward from each team

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Équipe: 2019-20 Équipe personnalisée
Date de création initiale: 14 juill. 2020
Publié: 14 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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THIS IS ONLY BASED ON THE 2019-2020 SEASON!! NOT ANY PREVIOUS HISTORY OR FUTURE PROJECTIONS!!
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11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Bruins de Boston
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 634 000 $11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 6
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 300 000 $3 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Stars de Dallas
9 850 000 $9 850 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
2 463 139 $2 463 139 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
3 350 000 $3 350 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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14 juill. 2020 à 15 h 0
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Maybe you should stop being so ignorant and start looking at those excel spreadsheets


Maybe you should quit posting garbage content that the vast majority of people disagree with. The disrespect to players like malkin, Drai, Eichal, is absolutely astonishing
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Maybe you should quit posting garbage content that the vast majority of people disagree with.


So if the vast majority of people are ignorant like you, I should stop telling you guys the truth?
14 juill. 2020 à 15 h 3
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Jake is solid defensively. I watch him every night. It’s funny how it’s this fringe group of people on cap friendly that no one ever agrees with and just pulls players WAR stats for every argument. Jake is miles better than Bjorkstrand and so is PLD. Maybe a watch a game instead of looking at your excel sheets.


I don't know why you bother. But you're 100% right here.
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14 juill. 2020 à 15 h 4
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So if the vast majority of people are ignorant like you, I should stop telling you guys the truth?


You’re not telling the truth LMFAO. You are lost in your own world of excel spreadsheets. The disrespect to NHL superstars like Malkin, Drai, Eichal, etc. Just shows your limited amount of hockey knowledge. I like advanced stats. I think they’re a good tool to help measure players in certain situations but they shouldn’t be the “be all end all” solution. WAR is a useless stat made by two clowns. Not even going to get into that again. Keep living in your bubble Mr Excel and maybe put on some glasses and actually watch a game or two
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I don't know why you bother. But you're 100% right here.


Because I am easy troll bait and I need to work on not falling for it tears of joy
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You’re not telling the truth LMFAO. You are lost in your own world of excel spreadsheets. The disrespect to NHL superstars like Malkin, Drai, Eichal, etc. Just shows your limited amount of hockey knowledge. I like advanced stats. I think they’re a good tool to help measure players in certain situations but they shouldn’t be the “be all end all” solution. WAR is a useless stat made by two clowns. Not even going to get into that again. Keep living in your bubble Mr Excel and maybe put on some glasses and actually watch a game or two


Is what world does using advanced stats make me a troll? The numbers im using are all non-biased while your results are coming from what your blind ignorant eyes have seen on tv. Its impossible for you to make accurate judgements of all 10 skaters at the exact same time. While stats can accurately do that
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14 juill. 2020 à 15 h 28
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Jake is solid defensively. I watch him every night. It’s funny how it’s this fringe group of people on cap friendly that no one ever agrees with and just pulls players WAR stats for every argument. Jake is miles better than Bjorkstrand and so is PLD. Maybe a watch a game instead of looking at your excel sheets.


I watch Guentzel every night too lmao, he never stands out defensively, and I'll trust the stats that show he is on the ice for a ton of shots and chances against over random people on the internet... I'd really like to hear your argument as to why PLD is in fact better, Bjorkstrand had a better 5v5 P/60, better RAPM xGA, better WAR and xWAR, better RAPM GF and xGF... you claim you use advanced stats as part of your player evaluation, but it seems like you only use them when they fit your narrative, even if you do only use them for say 33% of your player evaluation, and one player just absolutely blows another player out of the water, I feel like the first player would probably be considered better (especially bc in most cases it's not like advanced stats are saying a guy with 20 points is better than a guy with 100, it's usually only a difference of 20-30 points which with differing TOI, QoT, and PP/PK time that difference can easily be explained before you get to talking about players defensive abilities)
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I watch Guentzel every night too lmao, he never stands out defensively, and I'll trust the stats that show he is on the ice for a ton of shots and chances against over random people on the internet... I'd really like to hear your argument as to why PLD is in fact better, Bjorkstrand had a better 5v5 P/60, better RAPM xGA, better WAR and xWAR, better RAPM GF and xGF... you claim you use advanced stats as part of your player evaluation, but it seems like you only use them when they fit your narrative, even if you do only use them for say 33% of your player evaluation, and one player just absolutely blows another player out of the water, I feel like the first player would probably be considered better (especially bc in most cases it's not like advanced stats are saying a guy with 20 points is better than a guy with 100, it's usually only a difference of 20-30 points which with differing TOI, QoT, and PP/PK time that difference can easily be explained before you get to talking about players defensive abilities)


Thank you for being a level headed person and not a complete stone headed moron
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14 juill. 2020 à 15 h 38
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Thank you for being a level headed person and not a complete stone headed moron


I love arguing with normies way too much lol
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Thank you for being a level headed person and not a complete stone headed moron


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I love arguing with normies way too much lol


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I watch Guentzel every night too lmao, he never stands out defensively, and I'll trust the stats that show he is on the ice for a ton of shots and chances against over random people on the internet... I'd really like to hear your argument as to why PLD is in fact better, Bjorkstrand had a better 5v5 P/60, better RAPM xGA, better WAR and xWAR, better RAPM GF and xGF... you claim you use advanced stats as part of your player evaluation, but it seems like you only use them when they fit your narrative, even if you do only use them for say 33% of your player evaluation, and one player just absolutely blows another player out of the water, I feel like the first player would probably be considered better (especially bc in most cases it's not like advanced stats are saying a guy with 20 points is better than a guy with 100, it's usually only a difference of 20-30 points which with differing TOI, QoT, and PP/PK time that difference can easily be explained before you get to talking about players defensive abilities)


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Is what world does using advanced stats make me a troll? The numbers im using are all non-biased while your results are coming from what your blind ignorant eyes have seen on tv. Its impossible for you to make accurate judgements of all 10 skaters at the exact same time. While stats can accurately do that


You guys are both clueless. Dubois is a big body centre with great vision and some wheels and carries Columbus
night in and night out. Not a single level headed person would say he’s worse than Bjorkstrand. But you two bozos are living in fantasy world. Hockey is played ON ICE! NOT ON AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET. Advanced stats are a good way to distinguish whether a player is good or bad. (Except evolving wilds AWFUL model). I use it to show why a player like Rasmus Risto isn’t very good and a player like Marcus Petterson is underrated. But it is not accurate enough to tell you who is better between GOOD players. I see BS about how Gallagher is a top right wing in this league when in reality he isn’t even close. He’s a GOOD player; but I’m not going to use advanced stats to prove he’s better than a guy like Guenztal for example because it’s not accurate enough for that. Advanced stats are good to tell whose bad and whose not. But using them as your “be all end all solution” is just dumb. You should use advance stats with a combo of points, eye test, and what the experts say to come up with your opinion. If you solely base it only on advance stats your views will be skewed (and in fact they very much are)
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You guys are both clueless. Dubois is a big body centre with great vision and some wheels and carries Columbus
night in and night out. Not a single level headed person would say he’s worse than Bjorkstrand. But you two bozos are living in fantasy world. Hockey is played ON ICE! NOT ON AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET. Advanced stats are a good way to distinguish whether a player is good or bad. (Except evolving wilds AWFUL model). I use it to show why a player like Rasmus Risto isn’t very good and a player like Marcus Petterson is underrated. But it is not accurate enough to tell you who is better between GOOD players. I see BS about how Gallagher is a top right wing in this league when in reality he isn’t even close. He’s a GOOD player; but I’m not going to use advanced stats to prove he’s better than a guy like Guenztal for example because it’s not accurate enough for that. Advanced stats are good to tell whose bad and whose not. But using them as your “be all end all solution” is just dumb. You should use advance stats with a combo of points, eye test, and what the experts say to come up with your opinion. If you solely base it only on advance stats your views will be skewed (and in fact they very much are)


@Ajp_18 who was CBJ's best forward this year
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14 juill. 2020 à 16 h 38
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Maybe you should quit posting garbage content that the vast majority of people disagree with. The disrespect to players like malkin, Drai, Eichal, is absolutely astonishing


You do realize that just because some people disagree with something, doesn't mean it's wrong
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You’re not telling the truth LMFAO. You are lost in your own world of excel spreadsheets. The disrespect to NHL superstars like Malkin, Drai, Eichal, etc. Just shows your limited amount of hockey knowledge. I like advanced stats. I think they’re a good tool to help measure players in certain situations but they shouldn’t be the “be all end all” solution. WAR is a useless stat made by two clowns. Not even going to get into that again. Keep living in your bubble Mr Excel and maybe put on some glasses and actually watch a game or two


Hate to tell you this, but these guys didn't create the WAR metric.
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Geno led the league in points per 60 and still would’ve gotten over 100 points despite missing time. And Jake missed wayyyyy more time than malkin.
https://twitter.com/randipjanda/status/1265404574635921409?s=21

Petterson is great, but you’re overating him. He’s not in the likes of the NHLs best centres like Mcdavid, Matthews, Eichal, Crosby, malkin, Drai, etc... yet


Pettersson is better than Matthews, Eichel, and Draisaitl
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14 juill. 2020 à 16 h 45
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Hate to tell you this, but these guys didn't create the WAR metric.


They made the GAR metric or whatever
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Pettersson is better than Matthews, Eichel, and Draisaitl


Talk to me when he averages over a PPG. JT Miller even had more points lmfao
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They made the GAR metric or whatever


No they didn't.
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Talk to me when he averages over a PPG. JT Miller even had more points lmfao


Points mean absolutely nothing.
14 juill. 2020 à 16 h 46
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Honestly how is Stone not top 2
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No they didn't.


Well they post about it 24/7. I give no credibility to guys who post tweets like this.

https://twitter.com/evolvingwild/status/1230274299002544129?s=21
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They made the GAR metric or whatever


Nope
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Points mean absolutely nothing.


Okay buddy. Maybe on the excel spreadsheet they don’t. But in real life where hockey is played, yes points matter
14 juill. 2020 à 16 h 48
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Honestly how is Stone not top 2


In the league??? He’s good but settle down
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Well they post about it 24/7. I give no credibility to guys who post tweets like this.

https://twitter.com/evolvingwild/status/1230274299002544129?s=21


You give it no credibility because it challenges you to think outside your comfort zone.

FTFY.
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Okay buddy. Maybe on the excel spreadsheet they don’t. But in real life where hockey is played, yes points matter


No, they don't.
 
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