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Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 20 juin 2020
Publié: 20 juin 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 600 000 $
43 333 333 $
64 025 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
33 750 000 $
12 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Kostin, Klim
  2. Steen, Alexander
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (STL)
2.
MTL
  1. Boldy, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
  2. Eriksson Ek, Joel
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
MIN
3.
MTL
  1. Bennett, Sam
  2. Dubé, Dillon
  3. Lucic, Milan
  4. Nikolayev, Ilya [Liste de réserve]
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
4.
MTL
  1. Cogliano, Andrew
  2. Comeau, Blake
  3. Faksa, Radek [Droits de RFA]
  4. Honka, Julius [Liste de réserve]
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (DAL)
DAL
  1. Hudon, Charles [Droits de RFA]
  2. Luchuk, Aaron [Droits de RFA]
  3. Ouellet, Xavier [Droits de RFA]
  4. Petry, Jeff
  5. Weal, Jordan
5.
MTL
  1. Dzingel, Ryan
  2. Foegele, Warren [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
Enfoui
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2020
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Logo de WSH
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Logo de ANA
Logo de WPG
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Logo de FLA
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2021
Logo de MTL
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $75 569 642 $0 $670 000 $5 930 358 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 487 500 $1 487 500 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 2
3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 550 000 $2 550 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
900 000 $900 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AG, AD, C
NTC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 2
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
900 000 $900 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Stars de Dallas
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3

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20 juin 2020 à 20 h 21
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Probably Ek and PIT pick


Since Wild lack centers Ek is kinda a non starter in trade.
20 juin 2020 à 20 h 46
#27
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horrible moves for Habs
21 juin 2020 à 15 h 51
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Quoting: mokumboi
Uhh no.


You seriously need to stop overvaluing our prospects, our picks, and literally everyone who plays on our team. Gallagher is excellent and extremely cheap, and this is a very favorable trade. You can't have a stagnant roster and expect to stay competitive all the time
21 juin 2020 à 16 h 6
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
You seriously need to stop overvaluing our prospects, our picks, and literally everyone who plays on our team. Gallagher is excellent and extremely cheap, and this is a very favorable trade. You can't have a stagnant roster and expect to stay competitive all the time



Yeah, I don't do that. And I never said there's anything wrong with Gallagher. And we seemed to be doing quite well riding with the basic group that won it all last spring - in our case, staying competitive is a product of keeping a championship team together. But A) we're not trading expansion-exempt Kostin AND our 2020 1st to shave only $2M in cap (remember that mission #1 right now is re-signing Petro) & B) Gallagher would give us another near-30 player that we'll need to re-up (surely with a raise) after next season. We already have plenty of guys to worry about for summer '21, we don't need one more. Besides, on our team, Gallagher may even be a third liner/PP2 guy, and would get less ice time than he does in Montreal.

Ordinarily, I'd love to have Gallagher. But this ain't gonna work for us.
21 juin 2020 à 19 h 39
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Modifié 21 juin 2020 à 22 h 12
Quoting: mokumboi
Yeah, I don't do that. And I never said there's anything wrong with Gallagher. And we seemed to be doing quite well riding with the basic group that won it all last spring - in our case, staying competitive is a product of keeping a championship team together. But A) we're not trading expansion-exempt Kostin AND our 2020 1st to shave only $2M in cap (remember that mission #1 right now is re-signing Petro) & B) Gallagher would give us another near-30 player that we'll need to re-up (surely with a raise) after next season. We already have plenty of guys to worry about for summer '21, we don't need one more. Besides, on our team, Gallagher may even be a third liner/PP2 guy, and would get less ice time than he does in Montreal.

Ordinarily, I'd love to have Gallagher. But this ain't gonna work for us.


*deep breath*

All this tells me is that we very much disagree how good this team actually was this year. Because I see anything but a group that was doing "just fine". Sure, we were first in the west (barely- the injury stricken Avalanche were about to catch us), but let's not pretend this was a dominant year. We're doing well because David Perron had a career year scoring a ton on the power play and in overtime, and Pietrangelo played like a Norris winner, and we played in the weaker conference, and got lucky that the Jets and Predators had off years. Our underlying stats were bad-to-mediocre all year- and that's not even just from evolving hockey, which I know you don't like, that's from Dom, Micah, and Tierny as well. The biggest problem is that we could not score- and part of that was losing Tarasenko, sure. But, Perron is 32, you cannot rely on his production to continue, especially considering where he scored most of his points this year. And, you don't know really know what you have in Tarasenko anymore, the only guy on this team who has broken 30 goals in the last two years, due to yet another shoulder surgery. Gallagher meanwhile has scored 30 the last two seasons and was on pace to do it again this season with Max freaking Domi and Phillip freaking Danault as his centers.

And you don't put a guy like that on the third line, by the way. Yikes what a take. Maybe you don't overvalue our guys (I still say you do- in the last two weeks you said we should get a second or a third for Bozak and you've told me Justin Faulk isn't bad even though he very much is) but that "Gallagher would be a third liner on the Blues" is the biggest undervalue of a player I've heard in a long long time.

You say #1 priority is re-signing Pietrangelo, and I agree. Beyond the fact that there's no guarantee he will re-sign- and therefore you shouldn't determine the future of this team around what he may or may not do, which has clearly been Armstrong's mantra throughout by leaving him last to sign - I disagree that this prevents us in any meaningful way from doing that. Everyone has pretty much said "well, some combination of Steen, Allen and Bozak have to be traded then to get cap compliant". While I think the chances of him waiving to go to Montreal are basically zero, this specific trade gets rid of Steen- who is the least productive, most expensive, and hardest to move of those three due to his trade clause. You can still move Bozak and Allen in separate deals and re-sign Pietrangelo and still have money left over to re-up Dunn, due to Gallagher only having a 3.75 million (!) cap hit next year.

Your note about the expansion draft status of Kostin- yeah, that hurts a bit. But, where is Kostin going to be playing on this team? Unless he's way better than he's indicated the last three years, he's not outplaying Schenn, Schwartz, Gallagher, Tarasenko, Kyrou, Perron for a top six spot. That's already six players and I didn't even include Thomas or O'Reilly, let alone Sanford or Blais. So he's playing third line minutes, at best, and there are plenty of options every year for third liners either internally or as FAs. Him being exempt isn't that much of a boon if he's not ready to step in and be an impact player if we lose a top six forward, which we probably do without or without Gallagher.

Finally, sure we have Thomas, Schwartz, Kyrou to sign in 2021. Whatever. You're going to have people to sign every year. Let Schwartz walk, Gallagher is better. Or trade Perron, he might be the fourth best RW on the team by that point. There's no scenario where we aren't contenders anymore by acquiring this guy, and it improves our biggest flaw, which is scoring. If this was someone like, idk, Kevin Labanc or Vincent Trochek (idk, I'm just throwing names out there with similar cap hits who were/are on the trade block) I would agree with you, but Gallagher is a true impact player in his prime who could really help this team.
 
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