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Créé par: Caniac2000
Équipe: 2020-21 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 14 juin 2020
Publié: 16 juin 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
So this happened. Don't yell at me
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 150 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 150 000 $
77 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. McGinn, Brock
  2. Skjei, Brady
  3. Suzuki, Ryan
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
3rd turns into a 1st if Gaudreau re-signs (should be the draft after, but it doesn't go that far)
2.
CAR
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
3.
CAR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
4.
ANA
  1. Fleury, Haydn [Droits de RFA]
  2. Foegele, Warren
  3. Mäkiniemi, Eetu [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
Rachats de contrats
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2021
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Logo de STL
2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $81 452 127 $1 367 073 $3 707 500 $47 873 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
2 463 139 $2 463 139 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
863 333 $863 333 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
763 333 $763 333 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
C, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 150 000 $2 150 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
725 000 $725 000 $
C
UFA - 1

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16 juin 2020 à 7 h 17
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Flames have no use for Skjei, he has neg value to Calgary
16 juin 2020 à 7 h 21
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Flames have no use for Skjei, he has neg value to Calgary


He doesn't have neg value LOLOL

You can literally flip him for a 2nd and 3rd to Montreal or Vancouver
16 juin 2020 à 7 h 57
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Cant see Anaheim taking that for Rakell, they need more quality

Also would hate to give up on Makiniemi, I really like him
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16 juin 2020 à 8 h 6
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Cant see Anaheim taking that for Rakell, they need more quality

Also would hate to give up on Makiniemi, I really like him


Kochetkov >>> and I don't think it's close. I'm really high on Makiniemi, but with Kochetkov and Lehner, there's no need for him
16 juin 2020 à 8 h 9
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He doesn't have neg value LOLOL

You can literally flip him for a 2nd and 3rd to Montreal or Vancouver


You dont trade elite players for expensive flips while you are a competing team. I said he has no value to Calgary, hes obviously not better than Gio and Hanifin is younger and a step up already. Valimaki is ready to play the 3rd pair so he has no spot in Calgary.
16 juin 2020 à 8 h 10
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You dont trade elite players for expensive flips while you are a competing team. I said he has no value to Calgary, hes obviously not better than Gio and Hanifin is younger and a step up already. Valimaki is ready to play the 3rd pair so he has no spot in Calgary.


Skjei is better than Hanifin. Speaking analytically at least. That already gives him a spot in Calgary, or they can flip him for more futures. IT's really to Trelivings discretion.
16 juin 2020 à 8 h 22
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Skjei is better than Hanifin. Speaking analytically at least. That already gives him a spot in Calgary, or they can flip him for more futures. IT's really to Trelivings discretion.


What analytics exactly? Hanifin has a better Corsi ranking, better GAR (vs both CAR and NYR) and overall better RAPM. If you are comparing current Hanifin to 20yo Hanifin in Carolina they are almost completely different players.
16 juin 2020 à 8 h 50
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What analytics exactly? Hanifin has a better Corsi ranking, better GAR (vs both CAR and NYR) and overall better RAPM. If you are comparing current Hanifin to 20yo Hanifin in Carolina they are almost completely different players.


dxG favours Skjei, and Skjei's dxGF is significantly better (according to Hockeyviz).
16 juin 2020 à 8 h 53
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Another trade of scraps from Carolina for another teams best player, not even surprised anymore
16 juin 2020 à 8 h 58
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Another trade of scraps from Carolina for another teams best player, not even surprised anymore


The fact you think that is scraps shows how little you know about them
16 juin 2020 à 9 h 0
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worst Rakell trade I've seen on here.

I think if Gaudreau is available that Calgary will get better offers.

once again, a complete ignoring of the salary cap
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16 juin 2020 à 9 h 4
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Quoting: Caniac2000
The fact you think that is scraps shows how little you know about them


Would you trade Aho for Andersson, Dube, Bennett, 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd?

Because that's basically what this is.
16 juin 2020 à 9 h 10
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Would you trade Aho for Andersson, Dube, Bennett, 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd?

Because that's basically what this is.


This is not even close. Gaudreau isn't a centre, and he only has 2 years on his deal. This is more like trading Teravainen for that package, and I'd 100% consider it. If rumours are true that Gaudreau could be shopped should Calgary fail to do anything in the play-ins, this would be about the appropriate package
16 juin 2020 à 9 h 36
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This is a 21 man roster with no cap space. Not gonna work
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16 juin 2020 à 10 h 21
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This is not even close. Gaudreau isn't a centre, and he only has 2 years on his deal. This is more like trading Teravainen for that package, and I'd 100% consider it. If rumours are true that Gaudreau could be shopped should Calgary fail to do anything in the play-ins, this would be about the appropriate package


Even if Gaudrea is shopped though Calgary wont completely tear it down, they cant afford to at this point. They would be looking for a high end prospect that can make a difference right away and a high pick for him. Not a bunch pieces that would be useful in a rebuild but wouldn't move the needle upwards for thier team.
16 juin 2020 à 10 h 51
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This is a 21 man roster with no cap space. Not gonna work


Canes only ever carry 21 guys. It's never been a problem. If you need more than that, you move injured guys down, and call up whoever you need. IT works fine
16 juin 2020 à 10 h 54
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Even if Gaudrea is shopped though Calgary wont completely tear it down, they cant afford to at this point. They would be looking for a high end prospect that can make a difference right away and a high pick for him. Not a bunch pieces that would be useful in a rebuild but wouldn't move the needle upwards for thier team.


Suzuki isn't exactly a million miles away from NHL ready. McGinn is a nice 3rd liner, and they can flip Skjei for futures, or roster players. They could easily flip him to someone like Winnipeg for Roslovic (not 1 for 1, but you get the idea) and it would make an immediate impact. The only reason Skjei is in the trade is so they could do something like that, but also, so Carolina have the cap to take on Gaudreau. The picks would help down the road, or again, they can flip the picks.
16 juin 2020 à 13 h 52
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I don't think that Anaheim will trade one of its first-line players without getting immediate help at RD.
 
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