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Johnsson Trade

Créé par: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Date de création initiale: jun 12, 2020
Publié: 12 jun 2020 à 19 h 37
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Mikheyev, Ilya32 500 000 $
Dermott, Travis32 500 000 $
Gauthier, Frédérik1735 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Spezza, Jason1700 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. Archibald, Josh (350 000 $ retained)
EDM
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
TOR
TOR
VGK
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $81 509 783 $0 $0 $-9 783 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
EDM
Archibald, Josh
1 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
735 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Dermott, Travis
2 500 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 2
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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12 jun 2020 à 19 h 55
#1
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Why are we retaining? Archibald makes nothing compared to johnsson plus isn’t he your guys cap dump? I’d rather keep one of our best pkers plus he’s actually lowkey pretty good
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12 jun 2020 à 20 h 02
#2
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Quoting: Dylan1995
Why are we retaining? Archibald makes nothing compared to johnsson plus isn’t he your guys cap dump? I’d rather keep one of our best pkers plus he’s actually lowkey pretty good


Archibald isnt that good. Johnsson is a 50ish point winger and isnt a cap dump
12 jun 2020 à 20 h 15
#3
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Quoting: Jack_
Archibald isnt that good. Johnsson is a 50ish point winger and isnt a cap dump


Quoting: Jack_
Archibald isnt that good. Johnsson is a 50ish point winger and isnt a cap dump


I just don’t really see the points archibald brings in a lot with pk plus makes less an we can’t really add cap. It’s not like johnsson is a difference maker I like the goal but just can’t add cap right now especially retaining on archibald lol what’s the point

Edit mean to say like the guy not like the goal lol
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12 jun 2020 à 20 h 26
#4
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Quoting: Jack_
Archibald isnt that good. Johnsson is a 50ish point winger and isnt a cap dump


Johnsson isn't a 50ish point player. He got 43 last season, on pace for 40 this season (and only 15 goals), while playing with two all stars next to him. Johnsson also just came off of a season ending knee injury requiring surgery so there is definitely risk there. Going on 26 with a $3.4M cap hit, Johnsson isn't big trade value and not sure many teams are interested in him.
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12 jun 2020 à 20 h 34
#5
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Johnsson isn't a 50ish point player. He got 43 last season, on pace for 40 this season (and only 15 goals), while playing with two all stars next to him. Johnsson also just came off of a season ending knee injury requiring surgery so there is definitely risk there. Going on 26 with a $3.4M cap hit, Johnsson isn't big trade value and not sure many teams are interested in him.


He definitely played injured for most the time when he was around but I agree that he has almost no trade value. He also spent most of his time with Kerfoot and Kapanen with Mikheyev and Hyman in the top 6 for the majority of the season. I cant see the leafs trading him this offseason but if they do he wont be a cap dump
12 jun 2020 à 20 h 38
#6
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Quoting: Jack_
He definitely played injured for most the time when he was around but I agree that he has almost no trade value. He also spent most of his time with Kerfoot and Kapanen with Mikheyev and Hyman in the top 6 for the majority of the season. I cant see the leafs trading him this offseason but if they do he wont be a cap dump


Last year, when he had better stats, wasn't he playing in the top 6?
12 jun 2020 à 20 h 47
#7
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Last year, when he had better stats, wasn't he playing in the top 6?


When he had better stats he was with Matthews and Nylander/Kapanen but this year he played mostly on the 3rd line
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12 jun 2020 à 21 h 28
#8
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Quoting: Jack_
When he had better stats he was with Matthews and Nylander/Kapanen but this year he played mostly on the 3rd line


His first year with decent stats he also had an unsustainable shooting % that he will not realistically repeat. He is what he is, an undersized, 3rd line winger with a lot of speed and likely will never come close to repeating his first season's point totals. Since his biggest asset is his speed, and as mentioned already he is coming off a serious leg injury, and has a high cap hit for a 3rd line winger, their will be very little interest from any other team, especially from now until next trade deadline. At that point, if he proves that he recovered from his injury and he can produce with less than elite line mates, a contending team may take a chance on him if they have a hole to fill in the bottom of their line up. Until then, any return will be minimal, and comparable salary will likely have to be taken back in return if a trade did happen between seasons. Most teams will be tight against the cap and will not be interested in doing additional cap juggling so they can take on an undersized, over paid, average 3rd line left winger coming off a leg injury.
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12 jun 2020 à 21 h 32
#9
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Quoting: Jack_
When he had better stats he was with Matthews and Nylander/Kapanen but this year he played mostly on the 3rd line


Which is likely why he was on pace for only 15 goals. 15 goal 3rd liners are easy to find in the NHL and not at a cap hit of $3.4M. Johnsson can play up and being a supporting role player, but he's not going to really move the needle.
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12 jun 2020 à 22 h 31
#10
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I don’t mind Johnsson but Archibald is an important player for the PK and Johnsson is coming off that big injur, so for that reason I think the Oilers say no.
12 jun 2020 à 22 h 46
#11
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Troll post. Edmonton isn't interested in Johnsson.

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13 jun 2020 à 7 h 45
#12
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Quoting: Jack_
Archibald isnt that good. Johnsson is a 50ish point winger and isnt a cap dump


Quoting: ChiHawk
Johnsson isn't a 50ish point player. He got 43 last season, on pace for 40 this season (and only 15 goals), while playing with two all stars next to him. Johnsson also just came off of a season ending knee injury requiring surgery so there is definitely risk there. Going on 26 with a $3.4M cap hit, Johnsson isn't big trade value and not sure many teams are interested in him.


Quoting: Jack_
He definitely played injured for most the time when he was around but I agree that he has almost no trade value. He also spent most of his time with Kerfoot and Kapanen with Mikheyev and Hyman in the top 6 for the majority of the season. I cant see the leafs trading him this offseason but if they do he wont be a cap dump


Quoting: Jack_
When he had better stats he was with Matthews and Nylander/Kapanen but this year he played mostly on the 3rd line


Wow, you're either totally ignorant about your favorite team or flat out lying.

Johnsson played 424:28 with Matthew's out of a total TOI of 560:08 at 5v5 this season. That's 75.779575% !!

Oh, and he scored just 3 goals at 5v5 this year, all of them when Matthews was on the ice.
13 jun 2020 à 8 h 53
#13
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Quoting: CD282
Wow, you're either totally ignorant about your favorite team or flat out lying.

Johnsson played 424:28 with Matthew's out of a total TOI of 560:08 at 5v5 this season. That's 75.779575% !!

Oh, and he scored just 3 goals at 5v5 this year, all of them when Matthews was on the ice.


What was his shooting percentage when he was on the ice with matthews? I dont have it infront of me but I can guarantee you it will regress. I was wrong about his ice time. I remember him generally playing with Kerfoot and Kapanen. You also seem to forget that Johnsson never has gotten much pp1 besides a short strech when kadri was injured last season. Hes a great netfront player (just like arvidsson) and would put up 55 points on a different team. He would be Edmontons best LW'er
13 jun 2020 à 10 h 31
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Quoting: Jack_
What was his shooting percentage when he was on the ice with matthews? I dont have it infront of me but I can guarantee you it will regress. I was wrong about his ice time. I remember him generally playing with Kerfoot and Kapanen. You also seem to forget that Johnsson never has gotten much pp1 besides a short strech when kadri was injured last season. Hes a great netfront player (just like arvidsson) and would put up 55 points on a different team. He would be Edmontons best LW'er


tears of joy

Not even close. And he wouldn't get a sniff of PP1 in Edmonton - they have the best powerplay in over 40 years. And if he can't perform with a superstar center, he's not going to magically turn into a 55 point player on another team.
13 jun 2020 à 13 h 35
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johnsson is overated
 
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