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Créé par: Silkysmooth42
Équipe: 2020-21 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 8 juin 2020
Publié: 8 juin 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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So i saw someone make a similar trade, but gave up a bunch of other pieces including Vaak which seems less likely (though a good idea).
This way the Blackhawks get a solid top 6 player that is ready to excel but has seen injuries (Kase), a 1st rounder, a top 4 defensive player that is only playing 3rd pair minutes on the bruins cuz they have Chara and Krug (Griz) and a defensive prospect that can still excel given the chance on a team where he isnt stuck behind 5 other LHD (zboril). Its clearly good value wise for both teams, but my question would be piece-wise: do the Blackhawks do it? Do the blackhawks downgrade their winger a bit for a 1st, a solid prospect, and a good top 4 dman? Might be worth it?!
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
34 250 000 $
2900 000 $
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31 450 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 350 000 $
76 900 000 $
2800 000 $
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BOS
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Moore, John
Détails additionnels:
Anywhere
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BOS
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Cehlárik, Peter [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Anywhere
3.
CHI
  1. Grzelcyk, Matt [Droits de RFA]
  2. Kase, Ondrej
  3. Zboril, Jakub [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
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UFA - 3
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AD, AG
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
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UFA - 1
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769 167 $769 167 $ (Bonis de performance107 500 $$108K)
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1 275 000 $1 275 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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DG
UFA - 7
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 250 000 $$1M)
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850 000 $850 000 $
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UFA - 1

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8 juin 2020 à 15 h 42
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Value aside, why would the Hawks want to move DeBrincat?
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Value aside, why would the Hawks want to move DeBrincat?


Man idk cap reasons, build up a better prospect pool because they are gonna need to rebuild for real soon with an aging Tavares, Kane, Keith, Crawford, Seabrook, Saad etc...
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8 juin 2020 à 16 h 42
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Man idk cap reasons, build up a better prospect pool because they are gonna need to rebuild for real soon with an aging Tavares, Kane, Keith, Crawford, Seabrook, Saad etc...


this doesnt really build up our prospect pool though. That's gonna be a late first rounder. Replace Grz and Zboril with Bjork atleast, maybe even Debrusk. This doesnt come close to getting it done though.
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8 juin 2020 à 17 h 5
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this doesnt really build up our prospect pool though. That's gonna be a late first rounder. Replace Grz and Zboril with Bjork atleast, maybe even Debrusk. This doesnt come close to getting it done though.


Agree, this makes no sense. Take a couple guys that have trouble sticking in the NHL, and a guy that's injury ridden plus a late first for Cat who's miles better then any of them and as young or younger? C'mon guy.
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8 juin 2020 à 18 h 28
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Quoting: SlickWilly
this doesnt really build up our prospect pool though. That's gonna be a late first rounder. Replace Grz and Zboril with Bjork atleast, maybe even Debrusk. This doesnt come close to getting it done though.


I mean debrusk + zboril will do it, but I doubt the bruins do it lol
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8 juin 2020 à 18 h 29
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Fun trade. Idk if Chicago takes but good value
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Always felt Zboril would have already been playing on quite a few teams.

Three immediate NHL players. Don’t think that trade is far off at all.

If a suggestion is Bjork instead of Kase I would do that as well.
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Quoting: SlickWilly
this doesnt really build up our prospect pool though. That's gonna be a late first rounder. Replace Grz and Zboril with Bjork atleast, maybe even Debrusk. This doesnt come close to getting it done though.


Quoting: ChiHawk
Agree, this makes no sense. Take a couple guys that have trouble sticking in the NHL, and a guy that's injury ridden plus a late first for Cat who's miles better then any of them and as young or younger? C'mon guy.


I did have Bjork in instead of Kase which can be done absoluly. Then the only reason i threw in Griz over like a Kuhlman (another solid top 6 prospect) was because bruins wouldnt have the cap to resign him.

How about Bjork, Kuhlman, Zboril, and a 1st?

Then the bruins trade Griz somewhere else for a 2nd and play Kase on the left side

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Always felt Zboril would have already been playing on quite a few teams.

Three immediate NHL players. Don’t think that trade is far off at all.

If a suggestion is Bjork instead of Kase I would do that as well.


(sorry saw your comment after I posted this lol, appreciate it bro)
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8 juin 2020 à 21 h 27
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I did have Bjork in instead of Kase which can be done absoluly. Then the only reason i threw in Griz over like a Kuhlman (another solid top 6 prospect) was because bruins wouldnt have the cap to resign him.

How about Bjork, Kuhlman, Zboril, and a 1st?

Then the bruins trade Griz somewhere else for a 2nd and play Kase on the left side



(sorry saw your comment after I posted this lol, appreciate it bro)


Zboril is 23 and hasnt cracked the NHL yet and Kuhlman is 24 and had 6 points in 25 games as a center. Neither of them are attractive pieces at this point
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Quoting: SlickWilly
Zboril is 23 and hasnt cracked the NHL yet and Kuhlman is 24 and had 6 points in 25 games as a center. Neither of them are attractive pieces at this point


Zboril has played behind 5 other good LHD, of course he hasnt gotten a roster spot. Also 23 is still young
Kuhlman just got out of college, and looked good this past year, he still looks like a good prospect (college players develop later)

Please do your research before making comments like that
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Zboril has played behind 5 other good LHD, of course he hasnt gotten a roster spot. Also 23 is still young
Kuhlman just got out of college, and looked good this past year, he still looks like a good prospect (college players develop later)

Please do your research before making comments like that


It doesnt matter how old he is. 1 goal in 25 games as a 24 year old isnt good. That's a 4th line center. He isnt a prospect anymore. And for Zboril, if management saw something in him, they wouldve given him a game or 2 over John Moore, because Moore wasnt particularly great either. Im not saying they cant amount to anything. But they arent attractive prospects, and I am sure most people on this website outside of Boston would agree with me

And I'll say this too. Maybe they still figure to crack a lineup, but at this point their upside is questionable at best. Zboril figures to be a bottom 4 defender, Kuhlman probably won't get out of the bottom 6. You don't trade a guy who can score 40 goals for 2 middle to bottom 6 forwards and a bottom 4 defenseman. You trade him for another difference maker
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Zboril has played behind 5 other good LHD, of course he hasnt gotten a roster spot. Also 23 is still young
Kuhlman just got out of college, and looked good this past year, he still looks like a good prospect (college players develop later)

Please do your research before making comments like that


Kuhlman could develop into a nice third line forward but I think thats his ceiling. Great depth player but i dont see him becoming a top 6 forward imo.

As for the trade, Grizz, Bjork and a pick would be my best offer for DeBrincat. I think Grizz is a great trade chip. If he can be apart of a package to get a legitimate top 6 RW im all for it. The only issue with trading Grizz though is we'll be rolling out Vaak and Lauzon as a rookie bottom pair.
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Kuhlman could develop into a nice third line forward but I think thats his ceiling. Great depth player but i dont see him becoming a top 6 forward imo.

As for the trade, Grizz, Bjork and a pick would be my best offer for DeBrincat. I think Grizz is a great trade chip. If he can be apart of a package to get a legitimate top 6 RW im all for it. The only issue with trading Grizz though is we'll be rolling out Vaak and Lauzon as a rookie bottom pair.


In all fairness, Kuhlman still played well on the 3rd line, and is a college player (who tend to develop later anyway). Cant take him away from top 6 potential yet.
Also I dont think Urho makes it until next year anyway. This year would still be Lauzon and Clifton or Miller

Certainly good thoughts though and I was definitely thinking about Bjork over Kase
 
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