Well safe to say pretty much any other team is offering something better to have fun not getting eichel lmao

You're trying to trade for the guy. It's about value.

If we're talking about value, the following are more valuable:
Barkov
Huberdeau
Matthews
McDavid
Crosby
Ovechkin
Pastrnak
MacKinnon
Marchand
Bergeron
This isn't because they're better than eichel, but they all either make less for a similar production or make a little more and are better.

A core is normally 4 players not 6 and would be 7 if Buffalo accepted this deal. Your real core is Aho, Svech, Slavin and Hamilton. Adding Eichle to that core without losing any of those would be a huge win for Carolina.

Teuvo, Necas, Nino and Pesce are very good complimentary pieces that add to a depth that makes Carolina a contender but thinking they are your core and cant be moved for Eichle is a mistake.

Lmao, imagine thinking a team is actually gonna give up a core player for a player than openly wants out.

TT is more of a core piece than Sebass or Svech. Nino, I agree with which is why I included him. Carolina has won only 2 games without Pesce in the lineup since 2018. Necas is one of only 3 RH forwards on the roster, and he becomes just vital. If you think the value is off, Carolina has more picks and prospects than most teams can dream off, but in terms of high-end talent, I cannot see anyone being included. You look at PITs core, Sid, Malkin, Letang, Kunitz, Dupuis, Fleury. It's roughly the same with Carolina, except it's an extra D man because their D core is their strength.

Except Pittsburghs core is and always has been Malkin, Crosby, Letang. That's why no one else you listed is still there. Plus, Carolinas core doesnt have generational talents in it like Pit has in Malkin and Crosby.

You're basically arguing that Carolina has such a deep core and so any valuable players that they cant give even 1 up for a better player and instead just want to give up fringe pieces for a player that probably becomes your best forward by the end of his first season.

It's just non sense.

Lmao imagine thinking ur gonna get eichel for a bunch of garbage

Imagine thinking this is a bunch of garbage

Eichel < Aho. RAPM suggests it's not close. It's not worth parting with a core piece for a potential slight upgrade at C.

hmmmm nah

What you're ignoring is that Eichel hasn't even hit his prime yet and his stats have been muted by the team he's on. Here are my comments on your list:

Barkov - less value because he has just 2 years until UFA
Huberdeau - LMAO
Matthews - more money, less term, not a better player
McDavid - yes
Crosby - nearly 33, injuries are a concern. The value is close
Ovechkin - Caps do better with him on the bench, he's 34 with just 1 year until UFA
Pastrnak - better production but with vastly better linemates, doesn't play center. Value is close
MacKinnon - yes
Marchand - 32 years old, still good but decline is close at hand
Bergeron - he'll be 35 this summer, 2 years until UFA, just 25 assists playing with 2 top offensive players

So from your list I count 2 players with clearly greater value than Eichel and 2 who are close.

Hmmmmmm yah

If that's your logic then you're very flawed. You're not slightly upgrading at center because you still have Aho. You're upgrading your entire top 6 by adding a ppg player that can drive a line on his own.

In the end you're delusional to think that Buffalo would accept any offer that didnt have what you apparently consider core players if you want thier best player. You're basically saying that he isnt worth any of your 6 best players and Buffalo would laugh at you

Buffalo won't get core pieces offered for someone who openly wants out. That's common sense, when a player is known to want to leave, his value drops dramatically. You're very flawed to think otherwise

Loui may not have been a franchise player, but he was still a first line player on Dallas the four years leading up to the trade (minus the shortened season). Looking at Dallas' roster, he was no worse than 2nd on team in points from 2008-2012.

Nino isn't in the same caliber as Loui was when he was traded for Seguin. Eichel is more established than Seguin was and has more potential to continue his trajectory as a franchise caliber player. There isn't really a lot of trades recently that are similar to the situation Eichel is in, but it's hard to imagine Buffalo not getting some more promising pieces in the return.

he hasnt said any of that, you're just making it up because you know this is a bs offer

Saying "I'm tired of losing" on a team that hasn't made the playoffs is as close as you're gonna get to an NHL player coming out to say "Trade me". If you're in denial, that's on you. I'm not making it up, you're just not exactly putting 2 and 2 together. This being a "Bs offer" is also wrong, but if you don't understand Eichel wanting out, you won't understand that either so... no point arguing.

ya im the one not understanding as you stand alone arguing that Eichles trade value is basically a bunch of side pieces and think he isnt worth players that will never amount to more then average nhlers