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Rakell and Subban

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Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 22 mai 2020
Publié: 22 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
43 500 000 $
23 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
21 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
ANA
  1. Johnson, Jack
Détails additionnels:
CBO
2.
ANA
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Poulin, Samuel
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. Subban, P.K. (4 000 000 $ retained)
NJD
  1. Lafferty, Sam [Droits de RFA]
  2. Murray, Matt [Droits de RFA]
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2020
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2021
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Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de ANA
2022
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $78 576 647 $0 $1 062 500 $2 923 353 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
2 463 139 $2 463 139 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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22 mai 2020 à 22 h 50
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22 mai 2020 à 22 h 59
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Which one of those three elements is the #1 RD or #2 RD who would be the only reason we would be trading Rickard Rakell?
23 mai 2020 à 1 h 6
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Which one of those three elements is the #1 RD or #2 RD who would be the only reason we would be trading Rickard Rakell?


Well, I may further that process by asking if having a $5 million defensman playing 3rd pairing is good asset management?

Neither trade is a fit.
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Yes to Rakell.
No to Expensive 3rd pair D who has friction with our captain who’s only a top-5 player all time and the most important player in the NHL.
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23 mai 2020 à 8 h 58
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Buys out Johnson... gives $2M more, plus the Pens top trade Chip, for broken Subban.
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23 mai 2020 à 16 h 29
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Yes to Rakell.
No to Expensive 3rd pair D who has friction with our captain who’s only a top-5 player all time and the most important player in the NHL.


Sidney is great, but top 5 all time? I dunno about that.

Gretzky, Lemeiux, Orr, Howe, are easily ahead of him in that discussion. We can start to debate Richard, Harvey, Brodeur, Selanne, Bourque, Hull, Ovie, Roy and Lidstrom - just to start. Second tier discussion includes Mahovolich, Dryden, Sakic, Bossy, like another 20 Habs from the 50s-60s, Espositio.....

Yup. Top 5 is a huuuuuuuuuugggggggeeeee stretch.
23 mai 2020 à 17 h 14
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Well, I may further that process by asking if having a $5 million defensman playing 3rd pairing is good asset management?

Neither trade is a fit.


With Letangs injury history, having 3 solid right handed dmen is important for this team. Not hard to understand
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
Yes to Rakell.
No to Expensive 3rd pair D who has friction with our captain who’s only a top-5 player all time and the most important player in the NHL.

Sid would be the first guy to put aside personal beef for the good of the team.

Quoting: Yojimbo
Buys out Johnson... gives $2M more, plus the Pens top trade Chip, for broken Subban.

Saying Subban is broken is a stretch. He had a bad season, sure. But he played for the god damn devils. Although no where near the reclamation project Schultz was before arriving, pens coaching staff can work with him in regards to some of his tendencies that are not always appreciated.

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Sidney is great, but top 5 all time? I dunno about that.

Gretzky, Lemeiux, Orr, Howe, are easily ahead of him in that discussion. We can start to debate Richard, Harvey, Brodeur, Selanne, Bourque, Hull, Ovie, Roy and Lidstrom - just to start. Second tier discussion includes Mahovolich, Dryden, Sakic, Bossy, like another 20 Habs from the 50s-60s, Espositio.....

Yup. Top 5 is a huuuuuuuuuugggggggeeeee stretch.


I guess you should go tell that to all the former star players, current star players, analyst etc.. Dumb comment. Sid is easily top 5.
23 mai 2020 à 17 h 37
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Quoting: swinny
Sidney is great, but top 5 all time? I dunno about that.

Gretzky, Lemeiux, Orr, Howe, are easily ahead of him in that discussion. We can start to debate Richard, Harvey, Brodeur, Selanne, Bourque, Hull, Ovie, Roy and Lidstrom - just to start. Second tier discussion includes Mahovolich, Dryden, Sakic, Bossy, like another 20 Habs from the 50s-60s, Espositio.....

Yup. Top 5 is a huuuuuuuuuugggggggeeeee stretch.


I'll respectfully disagree. I put him number 4 all time behind Lemieux, Gretzky, and Orr. I feel you're overrating Howe a bit. I totally get he put up a lot of points but that was a really long time ago and he played forever. Howe is not in my top-10, no disrespect to him or you.
23 mai 2020 à 17 h 40
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Sid would be the first guy to put aside personal beef for the good of the team.


I agree he wouldn't make a fuss, but he was the guy dribbling PK's face into the ice in a playoff series not too long ago...

Quoting: Rawalia87
I guess you should go tell that to all the former star players, current star players, analyst etc.. Dumb comment. Sid is easily top 5.


Thank you, totally agree. I put him number 4 all time behind Lemieux, Gretzky, and Orr.
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With Letangs injury history, having 3 solid right handed dmen is important for this team. Not hard to understand


Right again, but I would prefer someone cheaper than PK as well. TVR from CAR is a UFA this offseason and seems like a good fit. Also M. Roy from LAK via trade. I doubt NJD would retain all that and that makes for a very expensive #3RHD, although your point about injuries is very true and well made.
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With Letangs injury history, having 3 solid right handed dmen is important for this team. Not hard to understand


I am not dumb thank you. Just wouldn't pay $5 million with term for that.
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Sid would be the first guy to put aside personal beef for the good of the team.


Saying Subban is broken is a stretch. He had a bad season, sure. But he played for the god damn devils. Although no where near the reclamation project Schultz was before arriving, pens coaching staff can work with him in regards to some of his tendencies that are not always appreciated.



I guess you should go tell that to all the former star players, current star players, analyst etc.. Dumb comment. Sid is easily top 5.


🤦‍♂️yup ok. Lol. I guess hockey didn't exist before 1980.

At least the other guy saw there maybe an argument for Howe..... I respect that differnce of opinion.

I will maintain, Crosby is great. Is he a for sure top 5 of all time? Nope. Once you're outside the top 3, arguments can be had for a number of players.

It's where you step back as a homer and ask yourself..... for example, Lidstrom or Crosby? Who would I want for a decade of their prime? Brodeur or Crosby? There is no right or wrong answer, I am sure there are people in both camps. But THAT IS my point. After a clear top 3 (to which people debate the order), there are too many players that one can have an argument for.
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Quoting: Rawalia87
Saying Subban is broken is a stretch. He had a bad season, sure. But he played for the god damn devils. Although no where near the reclamation project Schultz was before arriving, pens coaching staff can work with him in regards to some of his tendencies that are not always appreciated.


He's had two bad seasons across two teams and it started after he came back from a major injury. Notice, came back from, not recovered from. Not recovered from because the injury has totally changed his ability to play. ie: broken.
 
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