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Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 20 mai 2020
Publié: 20 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
24 350 000 $
11 500 000 $
1800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
32 000 000 $
11 100 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. Blackwood, Mackenzie [Droits de RFA]
  2. Carrick, Connor (750 000 $ retained)
  3. Severson, Damon (666 666 $ retained)
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2381 500 000 $81 077 283 $0 $0 $422 717 $
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20 mai 2020 à 20 h 25
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Your trade proposal would turn the Leafs from a contending status to a rebuild status real quick
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20 mai 2020 à 20 h 28
#2
In Pridham we trust
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Dermott?
20 mai 2020 à 20 h 29
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well, at least it's for a young backup that has never been a starter who isnt Georgiev or Jarry
20 mai 2020 à 20 h 32
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Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: Barilko14
Dermott?


Lol I forgot bout him
20 mai 2020 à 20 h 41
#5
No regretzkys
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
well, at least it's for a young backup that has never been a starter who isnt Georgiev or Jarry


Not saying I support the trade, but its probably safe to say Blackwood is capable of being a starter.
47 games played this year, a winning record and a .915 sv % on a bad team... At 23 years old... Not too shabby
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20 mai 2020 à 21 h 13
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Even if we assume that the value is fair, this trade fits neither the Devils' needs nor their timeline. I can see what you're going for, but ultimately the Devils' and Leafs' needs (i.e. defensive help) are too similar for this kind of trade to work.

As New Jersey attempts to complete their rebuild, they wouldn't trade their 23-year-old starter for a starter who turns 31 in October, and whose contract expires after next season. Blackwood is the Devils' present and future; even if Andersen is a clear upgrade (which, based on each goalie's numbers from the last two years, I'm unsure about), he does not fit the Devils' timeline. Regardless of how much value the Leafs send in return, the Devils are not likely to give up Blackwood without getting another goalie of the future.

Damon Severson was-- at 25 years old --the Devils' most-used defenseman in 2019-20. They may consider trading him in a package that includes Liljegren and a 1st, but only if they also receive some short-term help in the trade. Johnsson and Kapanen would provide that short-term help in theory, but in practice they would be redundant on New Jersey's roster. This season, middle-6 calibre wingers were just about the only thing that New Jersey had enough of. It's not that Severson is worth more than Liljegren, a 1st, Johnsson, and Kapanen-- in fact, you've probably overrated Severson in this trade. It's that Johnsson and Kapanen are of no use to the Devils.

As a side note, I don't think Severson is the defenseman that you want him to be; he probably won't satisfy Toronto's need for a rock-solid 1st pair RHD. Severson occasionally shows all the skills of a two-way dynamo, but he generally suffers from the same defects that have doomed Toronto's previous defensive projects: he's prone to disastrous lapses in judgement (both with and without the puck) and he often makes sub-optimal puck decisions when faced with pressure from opponents. Yes, Severson is more physical than Tyson Barrie or Jake Gardiner, and more dependable than Cody Ceci. But he's not the answer for Toronto, and he's not worth gutting the Leafs' middle 6. Similarly, Connor Carrick isn't exactly world-beater; I wouldn't be surprised if Liljegren is a better option as soon as next year.
20 mai 2020 à 21 h 17
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Quoting: MadLin27
Not saying I support the trade, but its probably safe to say Blackwood is capable of being a starter.
47 games played this year, a winning record and a .915 sv % on a bad team... At 23 years old... Not too shabby


no, it's safe to say that he has one partial season doing an ok job as a starter. It isnt safe to say anything about any goalie on such a limited number of games.
21 mai 2020 à 11 h 23
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No regretzkys
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
no, it's safe to say that he has one partial season doing an ok job as a starter. It isnt safe to say anything about any goalie on such a limited number of games.


No, the pandemic is unsafe. Calling Mackenzie Blackwood capable of being a starter is perfectly safe
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21 mai 2020 à 13 h 36
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No, the pandemic is unsafe. Calling Mackenzie Blackwood capable of being a starter is perfectly safe


No, it really isnt. Thats not how any hockey players development works, let alone a goalie
21 mai 2020 à 13 h 40
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
No, it really isnt. Thats not how any hockey players development works, let alone a goalie


Operable word is "capable". I was conservative with the wording for a reason.
Its a perfectly reasonable statement. You can disagree, but its a perfectly reasonable statement nonetheless.
21 mai 2020 à 13 h 56
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Quoting: MadLin27
Operable word is "capable". I was conservative with the wording for a reason.
Its a perfectly reasonable statement. You can disagree, but its a perfectly reasonable statement nonetheless.


Ok, then its a safe bet that andreas Johnson is capable of being a first line winger. Its also a safe bet that liljegren is capable of being a top pairing defender.

Were gonna need jersey to add big time here
21 mai 2020 à 14 h 1
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Ok, then its a safe bet that andreas Johnson is capable of being a first line winger. Its also a safe bet that liljegren is capable of being a top pairing defender.

Were gonna need jersey to add big time here


I literally wasn't making a point about the trade at all. Only point was about Blackwood. Read my original post...

Stop trying to pick battles.
21 mai 2020 à 14 h 8
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I literally wasn't making a point about the trade at all. Only point was about Blackwood. Read my original post...

Stop trying to pick battles.


Im using your point to make another point. Your use of the combined words safe and capable implies such a tenuous grasp of actual likelihood of the player achieving the goal (starter, 1st liner whatever) that it is basically meaningless if used exactly.
Now, originally i assumed you were being inexact and adding some flourish to calling blackwood a safe bet to be a starter, but when confronted with that you told me that you, in fact, were being exact as to avoid having to back up that you think it actually is a safe bet.
So, pick one, use the appropriate response.
Stop moving goalposts
 
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