Probably the last 2 guyes Armstrong trades.Toronto will run away with that.

How about Marner with 2M retention for Parayko and Thomas?

Maybe if Toronto retains 50%. Thomas isn't on the table.

LOL

There is absolutely no scenario where St. Louis trades Parayko and doesn't resign Pietrangelo. This is just silly, they have one of the best defense cores league wide that just won the cup. This makes them one of the weakest.

If Holl isn't part of the deal and they use CBO on Bozak/Allen they can resign him

That sounds like a lot of maybe's that have to work out almost perfectly. Banking on making the room after the trade were to happen, then to have him get an offer from like Winnipeg and sign there would completely screw them over. Also with Tank returning and Thomas/Sanford showing they can play top 6 there isn't much need for Marner. Also the above ACGM doesn't even have Dunn signed who will certainly be getting a decent raise.

If there’s a CBO, it’s almost definitely used on Steen, maybe Faulk. Allen was top 5 in SV% and GAA this year so he’ll have some interest around the league. Bozak is a solid 3C (as Toronto fans know) and probably would have some interest from teams like Buffalo or Edmonton.

Interesting deal though. I’m not a huge believer in Holl but he’s better than Bortuzzo and if we resign Petro, he’d be a good 3RD.

Absolutely not. An utterly ludicrous proposition.





Absolutely not. An even more ludicrous proposition, by at least double.

So Parayko is the best D on the planet. Got it!

Oh, he definitely is not, especially for our puck control game. And he's more expensive.

Nice strawman. But seriously, you guys need a new hobby if you actually have deluded yourself into thinking we'd trade you our most important D-man for the future, our most important forward for the future AND eat $5m in cap space for you. Get serious, dude.

You think? Bortuzzo is great in the role he plays for us, I have a hard time telling if he’d be as good for other teams.

I should get serious but you guys think Parayko is worth Rielly+ LMAO stooop.. I personally dont do Blues trades because blues wont trade Parayko in any realistic scenario (and Leafs same way wont trade Marner).. and I said it again and again.. but if there is a hypothetical unrealistic scenario.. its gonna be Marner for Parayko+ and that plus might be big.

Yup, Bortz is far better at handling and moving the puck than Holl, who is a human turnover. There's a reason Holl never managed a full season in the NHL until he was 28. He makes Bortz look like Bobby Orr.

Why do you keep making up nonsense? Everyone keeps telling you guys that the Blues have no interest in trading Parayko, and then you all pretend like we asked for Reilly+. We don't ask for Reilly+. We ask you guys to grow a clue and come up with a new idea that isn't ridiculous. NEWSFLASH: Expecting the Blues to give you Parayko, Thomas and $5M in cap space ain't it. Duh. Honestly, that may be the most laughable trade idea a Leafs fan has ever forwarded on this site... and that is saying volumes.

Just looked up their CORSICA rankings, Bortuzzo is 53 for RD and Holl is 61. I guess I always discredited Bortz, reckon it’s easy to do when he plays behind Colt and Petro. Faulk is 30 btw which is also surprising.

For his cap hit, Bortz is a huge value. He's dependable as hell, doesn't make many mistakes, on or off the puck. He plays a very simple game, but sometimes simple is excellent.

You actually might be the worst one on this site with overvaluing leaf players it’s sometimes painful snap back to the real world.

Am I? Okay, give me actual examples from my armchair GM teams. I wanna know what is so bad about my evaluations. Im here to learn, lets hear it from you, enlighten me on values of Leafs players!

Many of you asked for Rielly+ for Parayko on here.. Im not saying you specifically because you had some really good ideas. And I know that trade aint happening. Blues dont trade Parayko ever. Just like Leafs and Marner. It isnt exactly newsflash. It was as ridiculous of an idea as Rielly+ for Parayko. And you arent exactly giving us 5M in cap space in that hypothetical nonrealistic scenario either.. Marner at 8.93M for Parayko (5.5) and Thomas (900k) and leafs retain as well 2 millions so its basically 500k you are giving us..

@hanson493 to answer your question.. here is why: 90-100 point producer who kills penalties, is great defensively, is setup specialist and also one of the best wingers in the game for shutdown top pairing D who I love and Blues would and should never trade? I think that one of the best wingers in the game is more valuable there tbh.. its like would you trade Patrick Kane for Chris Pronger..

see i guess thats where home team bias comes in. Kane is a goal scorer, not a setup guy. Kane isnt really the best in his own zone but pronger was elite in his prime. you dont trade pronger if you have him. setup guys are great to have dont get me wrong but you also need to have the elite finisher to go with the setup guy. marner and tavares or marner and matthews. For me it comes down to do i think marner could elevate players around him to the point parayko does shutting them down while also looking at cap values to put players around them which my answer would be no. We both agree parayko should NEVER be traded. but to say marner is worth more is a stretch in my eyes. if you replaced marner for matthews maybe you have a point. But its not like marners this elite goal scoring threat. without elite goal scoring he isnt a 90-100 point player.