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A flat cap could help the Bruins

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Équipe: 2020-21 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 16 avr. 2020
Publié: 16 avr. 2020
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UFAs will lose leverage making the market much cheaper.

Hall may decide to go take the best chance to win and Krug may take a hometown discount to allow that to happen.

Chara take a 1m + bonuses deal.

Debrusk had a bad year and gets the same deal as Carlo

Halak will be 35 in May, making him also eligible for a bonus contract like Chara's

Sharks pick is almost a first rounder in a deep draft
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16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 16
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Sharks nor anyone is paying you a high second for a bottom pairing defensive D
16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 17
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Hall is not needed and signing him at this contract would be a mistake.

And disagree for the UFA thing
16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 18
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Sharks nor anyone is paying you a high second for a bottom pairing defensive D


How to find someone who doesn't know anything about the player he is talking about

Best exemple @papishark
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16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 21
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Taylor Hall with McGruff as Boston GM is a one-time, take it or leave it offer, of:
5Y and US$6M.

IMO, He in no way deserves to be at US$9M w/ Berg-Marchand-Pasta et al. in the room or in any other room frankly...

PS: DeBrusk will get more and Halak will never sign that deal.
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16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 22
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How to find someone who doesn't know anything about the player he is talking about

Best exemple @papishark


Ok tell me about mr Grz and why I would want to pay pick number 35 for him.
16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 24
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The effect of the flat cap will be felt by UFAs who are in the middle to bottom of the lineup. Guys who might have been 3-5mil players this summer aren't going to be getting that.

The Top UFAs will still get paid.
16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 30
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Sharks nor anyone is paying you a high second for a bottom pairing defensive D


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Ok tell me about mr Grz and why I would want to pay pick number 35 for him.


I could give a complete explanation but quickly, first thing you need to understand

Matt Grzelcyk's role in Boston (healthy lineup): 3rd pair LD
Matt Grzelcyk's potential: Top4

Not sure potential is the right word but still, my point is that Grzelcyk only plays 3rd pair because there is Chara and Krug in front of him and because there's Chara-McAvoy and Krug-Carlo in front of him. Our pairings are perfect like that. If there's an injury to Chara/McAvoy/Carlo/Krug, who moves up? Matt Grzelcyk.
One of the best puck-moving D and one of the best at zone exits. Can play well on the PP but he is better defensively, despite being undersized. Yes, he would be SJS's first LD. You could say you want to keep Simek-Burns together, alright but he's better than Simek (and Burns) defensively. Vlasic has been declining, Karlsson's force is more his offensive game than defense. Ferraro is actually good overall. And if you want to play Tim Heed or Dalton Prout, that's up to you.

But Grzelcyk is capable of playing top4 and would be playing in the top4 for at least 15/31 teams.

Now, if you feel like you don't want/need him, it's okay I understand that.


But don't tell me he is a bottom-pair D.
16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 34
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Quoting: bhavikp27
I could give a complete explanation but quickly, first thing you need to understand

Matt Grzelcyk's role in Boston (healthy lineup): 3rd pair LD
Matt Grzelcyk's potential: Top4

Not sure potential is the right word but still, my point is that Grzelcyk only plays 3rd pair because there is Chara and Krug in front of him and because there's Chara-McAvoy and Krug-Carlo in front of him. Our pairings are perfect like that. If there's an injury to Chara/McAvoy/Carlo/Krug, who moves up? Matt Grzelcyk.
One of the best puck-moving D and one of the best at zone exits. Can play well on the PP but he is better defensively, despite being undersized. Yes, he would be SJS's first LD. You could say you want to keep Simek-Burns together, alright but he's better than Simek (and Burns) defensively. Vlasic has been declining, Karlsson's force is more his offensive game than defense. Ferraro is actually good overall. And if you want to play Tim Heed or Dalton Prout, that's up to you.

But Grzelcyk is capable of playing top4 and would be playing in the top4 for at least 15/31 teams.

Now, if you feel like you don't want/need him, it's okay I understand that.


But don't tell me he is a bottom-pair D.


Ok then why move him? After looking at metrics hes better than I thought, but still not someone the sharks would pay for as it is not a position of need at all. It was my mistake as I didnt realize he had taken such a leap this year. He appears to be your best LH D after krug and clearly better than Chara.
16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 37
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Ok then why move him? After looking at metrics hes better than I thought, but still not someone the sharks would pay for as it is not a position of need at all. It was my mistake as I didnt realize he had taken such a leap this year


I'm not talking about the post. Don't really care about that.

With the expansion draft next year and Bruins cap " issues ", they may need to move him. That's it.
16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 54
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All set on Hall for 9M when he's not even the best LW on the Bruins
16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 58
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I'm not talking about the post. Don't really care about that.

With the expansion draft next year and Bruins cap " issues ", they may need to move him. That's it.


Your right with everything except i think you have to keep Grez no matter what because he makes the team better but if we trade him Seattle might just take Lauzon or Clifton and then the bruins would be in trouble if they lost 2 guys that can slot in the lineup.
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16 avr. 2020 à 19 h 5
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Quoting: bhavikp27
I could give a complete explanation but quickly, first thing you need to understand

Matt Grzelcyk's role in Boston (healthy lineup): 3rd pair LD
Matt Grzelcyk's potential: Top4

Not sure potential is the right word but still, my point is that Grzelcyk only plays 3rd pair because there is Chara and Krug in front of him and because there's Chara-McAvoy and Krug-Carlo in front of him. Our pairings are perfect like that. If there's an injury to Chara/McAvoy/Carlo/Krug, who moves up? Matt Grzelcyk.
One of the best puck-moving D and one of the best at zone exits. Can play well on the PP but he is better defensively, despite being undersized. Yes, he would be SJS's first LD. You could say you want to keep Simek-Burns together, alright but he's better than Simek (and Burns) defensively. Vlasic has been declining, Karlsson's force is more his offensive game than defense. Ferraro is actually good overall. And if you want to play Tim Heed or Dalton Prout, that's up to you.

But Grzelcyk is capable of playing top4 and would be playing in the top4 for at least 15/31 teams.

Now, if you feel like you don't want/need him, it's okay I understand that.


But don't tell me he is a bottom-pair D.


We don't need more defenseman
16 avr. 2020 à 19 h 28
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Good Griz trade
Bruins get too much for Moore

Debrusk deal is light
Halak deal is WAYYYY off, bruins cant afford him at the 4 million he will want.

Other than that, not terrible, but not good either
16 avr. 2020 à 19 h 28
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Hall is not worth 9 million and he's gonna disappoint whoever gives it to him.
16 avr. 2020 à 19 h 28
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Quoting: JumboJoe
We don't need more defenseman


Ok so he goes to another team for a 2nd
16 avr. 2020 à 19 h 31
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Quoting: papishark
Sharks nor anyone is paying you a high second for a bottom pairing defensive D


Quoting: bhavikp27
How to find someone who doesn't know anything about the player he is talking about

Best exemple @papishark


Quoting: papishark
Ok tell me about mr Grz and why I would want to pay pick number 35 for him.


Yeah @papishark he is 100% right and you CLEARLY havent done enough research whatsoevery.
Griz is a top 4 dman on over half of the teams in the league. However, he is stuck behind Krug and Chara right now which is the ONLY reason he is a 3rd pair guy.
Please do your research before commenting and arguing and dumb point
16 avr. 2020 à 19 h 40
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Your right with everything except i think you have to keep Grez no matter what because he makes the team better but if we trade him Seattle might just take Lauzon or Clifton and then the bruins would be in trouble if they lost 2 guys that can slot in the lineup.

If Krug resigns Grz will be odd man out in expansion_No?

Scenario 1: protect 7F | 3D | G-man
Bergy
Marchand
Pasta
Coyle
DeBrusk
TBD (Bjork?)
TBD (Kase/Kuraly?)

Rask

Krug
Carlo
McAv
*Grz would be odd man out and likely selected by the STARBUCKS...

Scenario 2: protect 8 skaters (F/D) | G-man:
Bergy
Marchand
Pasta
Coyle
DeBrusk
Krug
Carlo
McAv...

Rask
*Grz would be odd man out again_is DeBrusk the other option then for SEA?
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16 avr. 2020 à 19 h 42
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Quoting: McGruff
If Krug resigns Grz will be odd man out in expansion.

Scenario 1: protect 7F | 3D | G-man
Bergy
Marchand
Pasta
Coyle
DeBrusk
TBD (Bjork?)
TBD (Kase/Kuraly?)

Rask

Krug
Carlo
McAv
*Grz would be odd man out and likely selected by the STARBUCKS...

Scenario 2: protect 8 skaters (F/D) | G-man:
Bergy
Marchand
Pasta
Coyle
DeBrusk
Krug
Carlo
McAv...

Rask
*Grz would be odd man out again_is DeBrusk the other option then for SEA?


To me we have to keep Debrusk. Lauzon and Clifton can step up if Grez is gone but who steps up if Debrusk is gone?
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16 avr. 2020 à 19 h 51
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To me we have to keep Debrusk. Lauzon and Clifton can step up if Grez is gone but who steps up if Debrusk is gone?


Yeah, more D-depth in the system. It'll be one more big year for the "bubble" guys to "show-me" to DS.
If Grz is out, it's why JM could have some sleeper value say if Lauzon-Clif-Vaak-Miller falter/regress.
As of now, I think Lauzon's a player....
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16 avr. 2020 à 20 h 2
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Quoting: McGruff
If Krug resigns Grz will be odd man out in expansion_No?

Scenario 1: protect 7F | 3D | G-man
Bergy
Marchand
Pasta
Coyle
DeBrusk
TBD (Bjork?)
TBD (Kase/Kuraly?)

Rask

Krug
Carlo
McAv
*Grz would be odd man out and likely selected by the STARBUCKS...

Scenario 2: protect 8 skaters (F/D) | G-man:
Bergy
Marchand
Pasta
Coyle
DeBrusk
Krug
Carlo
McAv...

Rask
*Grz would be odd man out again_is DeBrusk the other option then for SEA?


Kase's a lock and Bjork (if not moved) needs to stay as well.
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16 avr. 2020 à 21 h 4
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Quoting: McGruff
If Krug resigns Grz will be odd man out in expansion_No?

Scenario 1: protect 7F | 3D | G-man
Bergy
Marchand
Pasta
Coyle
DeBrusk
TBD (Bjork?)
TBD (Kase/Kuraly?)

Rask

Krug
Carlo
McAv
*Grz would be odd man out and likely selected by the STARBUCKS...

Scenario 2: protect 8 skaters (F/D) | G-man:
Bergy
Marchand
Pasta
Coyle
DeBrusk
Krug
Carlo
McAv...

Rask
*Grz would be odd man out again_is DeBrusk the other option then for SEA?


can also pay for seattle to take someone else. Will be expensive tho
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16 avr. 2020 à 21 h 17
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can also pay for seattle to take someone else. Will be expensive tho


Yeah - lots of "bingo balls" to be tossed into the air via alternative trades &/ or picks offered to stay away from key pieces!!
17 avr. 2020 à 8 h 48
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I agree with you about the UFA class. RFA's are getting big payday's after entry level contract where UFA's of the past were always playing for that bigger pay day. It will be interesting to follow the trend.
 
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