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What Dallas Stars could have been if they drafted properly

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Équipe: 2019-20 Stars de Dallas
Date de création initiale: 16 avr. 2020
Publié: 16 avr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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NSH
    Scott Gleanie 9th Overall 2009
    2.
    STL
      2010 Jack Cambell 11th overall
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      VAN
        2011 Jamie Oleksiak 14th overall
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        DAL
        1. Domi, Max (700 000 $ retained)
        MTL
          2013 10th overall Nichuskin bought out 700k
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          DAL
          1. Larkin, Dylan
          Détails additionnels:
          2014 15th overall
          DET
            2014 14th overall Julius Honka
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            DAL
            PHI
            1. Comeau, Blake
            2. Hanzal, Martin
            3. Johns, Stephen
            4. Perry, Corey
            Détails additionnels:
            Not signed or Traded
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            DAL
            PHI
            1. Benn, Jamie
            2. Dickinson, Jason
            3. Pavelski, Joe
            Détails additionnels:
            Traded
            13.
            DAL
            PHI
            1. Cogliano, Andrew
            2. Sekera, Andrej
            Détails additionnels:
            Traded
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            AG, AD
            UFA - 1
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            925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
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            C
            UFA - 1
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            894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
            C, AD
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            750 000 $750 000 $
            C, AG
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            DG
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            UFA - 3
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            DD
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            16 avr. 2020 à 0 h 41
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            Acting like Heiskanen hasn't done anything but thrive for the Stars is some galaxy-brain level thinking.
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            16 avr. 2020 à 0 h 43
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            You forgot to take out oleksiak, and if you do I’d much rather take heiskanen over Pettersson
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            16 avr. 2020 à 0 h 45
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            Heiskanen is a stud, and way more value to this Dallas team than Petersson would be. You really want Oleksiack in the top 4?
            16 avr. 2020 à 1 h 6
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            What in tarnation
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            Heiskanen is slowly becoming one of the best, if not the best d-man of modern hockey.

            I'd rather take him over Pettersson.

            Also we would've never traded Jamie Benn. He is our captain, won Art Ross and until 2018 had been TOP5 LW in the league, possibly TOP3.
            16 avr. 2020 à 1 h 28
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            Quoting: justaBoss
            Heiskanen is slowly becoming one of the best, if not the best d-man of modern hockey.

            I'd rather take him over Pettersson.

            Also we would've never traded Jamie Benn. He is our captain, won Art Ross and until 2018 had been TOP5 LW in the league, possibly TOP3.


            Heiskanen is great but lets slow down... hes certainly not in the conversation for best D in the league. Hes not even best D in his draft class. I agree with you on Benn though
            16 avr. 2020 à 2 h 40
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            What in tarnation
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            Quoting: mhockey91
            Heiskanen is great but lets slow down... hes certainly not in the conversation for best D in the league. Hes not even best D in his draft class. I agree with you on Benn though


            Not yet. In 5 years I'd expect him to be a constant Norris candidate.

            As for his draft class, I think he's the best. Makar's great too, but I don't see him being as sound defensively as Heiskanen is.
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            16 avr. 2020 à 9 h 3
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            Quoting: mhockey91
            Heiskanen is great but lets slow down... hes certainly not in the conversation for best D in the league. Hes not even best D in his draft class. I agree with you on Benn though


            Makar isn’t as good. Makar is flashy with his skating and puts up more points. That’s really it. Heiskanen is miles ahead defensively and way more rounded
            16 avr. 2020 à 14 h 27
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            Quoting: McFaksaGOAT
            Makar isn’t as good. Makar is flashy with his skating and puts up more points. That’s really it. Heiskanen is miles ahead defensively and way more rounded


            Quoting: justaBoss
            Not yet. In 5 years I'd expect him to be a constant Norris candidate.

            As for his draft class, I think he's the best. Makar's great too, but I don't see him being as sound defensively as Heiskanen is.


            Of course stars fans would say that. But when looking at their underlying numbers, not only does makar produce more offence, but he’s actually more sound defensively. While advanced stats aren’t everything, this combined with Makar being much better on the eye test and putting up way more point, he’s clear cut better than heiskanen. It’s not a knock on heiskanen, he’s still a very good D. But Makar and Petterson both are better players.

            https://public.tableau.com/profile/bill.comeau#!/vizhome/SKATR2019-2020/SKATR
            16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 12
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            Quoting: mhockey91
            Of course stars fans would say that. But when looking at their underlying numbers, not only does makar produce more offence, but he’s actually more sound defensively. While advanced stats aren’t everything, this combined with Makar being much better on the eye test and putting up way more point, he’s clear cut better than heiskanen. It’s not a knock on heiskanen, he’s still a very good D. But Makar and Petterson both are better players.

            https://public.tableau.com/profile/bill.comeau#!/vizhome/SKATR2019-2020/SKATR


            I dunno about how accurate is that source of yours.

            Hockey-reference.com shows them being quite even both offensively and defensively, but the biggest difference is the zone starts for each players. According to them, Makar's offensive zone starts are 10% higher than Heiskanen's, so it's not a miracle he has more points. Heiskanen is used more as a defensive D-man than Makar is.

            Here's the links
            https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/h/heiskmi01.html
            https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/m/makarca01.html
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            16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 54
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            Quoting: justaBoss
            I dunno about how accurate is that source of yours.

            Hockey-reference.com shows them being quite even both offensively and defensively, but the biggest difference is the zone starts for each players. According to them, Makar's offensive zone starts are 10% higher than Heiskanen's, so it's not a miracle he has more points. Heiskanen is used more as a defensive D-man than Makar is.

            Here's the links
            https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/h/heiskmi01.html
            https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/m/makarca01.html


            They don’t wanna know this tho cause it won’t fit their narrative. Heiskanen is the superior one as of now
            16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 56
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            Quoting: McFaksaGOAT
            They don’t wanna know this tho cause it won’t fit their narrative. Heiskanen is the superior one as of now


            Nah. I can fully understand why people think Makar's the better one. I personally view Heiskanen as the better one, but it might be due to my personal bias.
            16 avr. 2020 à 18 h 57
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            Quoting: justaBoss
            Nah. I can fully understand why people think Makar's the better one. I personally view Heiskanen as the better one, but it might be due to my personal bias.


            Nah man. Makars defensive game is behind Heiskanen. Makar is also extremely sheltered compared to Heiskanen
            16 avr. 2020 à 19 h 0
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            Quoting: McFaksaGOAT
            Nah man. Makars defensive game is behind Heiskanen. Makar is also extremely sheltered compared to Heiskanen


            Yeah, I understand this viewpoint too.
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            16 avr. 2020 à 19 h 14
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            Quoting: justaBoss
            Yeah, I understand this viewpoint too.


            Tbh it’s almost the exact same argument with Dahlin/Heiskanen
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