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Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 8 avr. 2020
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He said the NHL is expected to come back contrary to belief (!!!)

He said the salary cap will not go down

Says free agents will look at this free agency differently and will look for 1-2 year deals to boost the value

Pietrangelo doesn't have any interest in coming to Toronto for those of you who thought it could happen (I'm not one of those people)

The leafs could be an attractive destination for players to come on one-year deals

He thinks Ceci and Barrie will walk (I will legitimately miss Barrie... oh yeah BYE BYE CECI)

Robertson and Toronto have zero interest in returning to the OHL

Johnston isn't sold on Engvall as an NHLer... says leafs arent afraid to send him down, they believe he will fight for spot (Robertson vs Engvall?)

Spezza WILL return

Kapanen is the most tradable guy but the leafs wont want to move him

Says the leafs will be very creative this season

The leafs have interest in bringing in but ONLY on a team-friendly deal meaning that 2-3m **** is fake af

The leafs re-signing Freddy is TBD, he loves it here however there is a scenario where the leafs wont afford him. but if he doesn't go back to his normal self they will have to look for another tendy anyway

Johnston doesn't think Barabanov will be as good as Mikheyev but he will play in the NHL next year. the reason KHL free agents like Toronto is that they stick to their commitment of giving NHL games,
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8 avr. 2020 à 21 h 49
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Cbj aren’t trading their picks and they definitely aren’t trading for another defenseman.
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8 avr. 2020 à 21 h 53
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CBJ decline, same with Vancouver.
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8 avr. 2020 à 21 h 56
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CBJ decline, same with Vancouver.


CBJ is kinda low on Anderson, like really low. I feel like its a fair deal. Holl is definitely worth a 3rd round pick IMO.
8 avr. 2020 à 22 h 1
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CBJ is kinda low on Anderson, like really low. I feel like its a fair deal. Holl is definitely worth a 3rd round pick IMO.


CBJ are looking for a top 6 center, they already have enough dmen. VAN have better options on defense then Holl, they will likely re-sign Tanev and they also have Myers & Stecher on the right side.
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8 avr. 2020 à 22 h 5
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CBJ is kinda low on Anderson, like really low. I feel like its a fair deal. Holl is definitely worth a 3rd round pick IMO.


Right but it’s not a need. We need top 6 centers and we’ll package him a dman and maybe a goalie for one.
8 avr. 2020 à 22 h 10
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CBJ is kinda low on Anderson, like really low. I feel like its a fair deal. Holl is definitely worth a 3rd round pick IMO.


Columbus isn’t low on Anderson. They’d rather not trade him.

Also Columbus would much rather get a top 6 center vs a 8th LHD. Maybe if the trade were Holl vs Dermott but LHD isn’t a position we have any use in acquiring for right now.
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8 avr. 2020 à 22 h 36
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The NHL stands to lose over a Billion dollars if they dont come back, Corona-chan is a joke, and Hydroxychloroquine works
8 avr. 2020 à 23 h 30
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The NHL stands to lose over a Billion dollars if they dont come back, Corona-chan is a joke, and Hydroxychloroquine works


Fake news
8 avr. 2020 à 23 h 34
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Anderson has arbitration rights and needs to be qualified from his current 1.85 salary. Probably an arbitrator would give 3 mil for 2 years
9 avr. 2020 à 10 h 58
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Fake news


2 second hand accounts disagrees with that. Both my friends were off ventilators within a day of starting Hydroxychloroquine 
9 avr. 2020 à 11 h 36
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2 second hand accounts disagrees with that. Both my friends were off ventilators within a day of starting Hydroxychloroquine 


Cool story bro.
9 avr. 2020 à 14 h 40
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Cool story bro.


Being their friend, and especially for their families, it was a very cool story
10 avr. 2020 à 0 h 7
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Being their friend, and especially for their families, it was a very cool story


I'm sure, has nothing to do with the fact that it has nothing to do with them restarting the season.
The fact that you know people with it shows how wide spread it is and it's not just going away any time soon. Which means no mass gatherings. Which means no $ from the gate. Which is their primary source of income.
Only a total moron things they are missing out on a billion when they only lost roughly 10 games and the playoofs.
That's no where near true.

Just like it's no where near true that they are returning any time soon.
They aren't.
10 avr. 2020 à 16 h 8
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I'm sure, has nothing to do with the fact that it has nothing to do with them restarting the season.
The fact that you know people with it shows how wide spread it is and it's not just going away any time soon. Which means no mass gatherings. Which means no $ from the gate. Which is their primary source of income.
Only a total moron things they are missing out on a billion when they only lost roughly 10 games and the playoofs.
That's no where near true.

Just like it's no where near true that they are returning any time soon.
They aren't.


Viruses dont go away. The answer doesnt lie in when it will disappear because it wont. The answer lies in treating it, in which we have a lot of options and medicine like Hydroxychloroquine is proving to be highly successful in clinical trials. Teams are missing 11 to 14 games from the end of the season, which means the NHL is missing out on around 180 to 190 games. Thats a lot more than 10. The playoffs are also a huge revenue driver for the league, especially as most games are nationally and internationally broadcasted. Let alone Ad revenue, merch sales, etc. For a league like the NHL I'm sure than number is closer to a billion than you think it is. Although it doesnt seem like your the kind of person that would understand economics
10 avr. 2020 à 20 h 20
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Viruses dont go away. The answer doesnt lie in when it will disappear because it wont. The answer lies in treating it, in which we have a lot of options and medicine like Hydroxychloroquine is proving to be highly successful in clinical trials. Teams are missing 11 to 14 games from the end of the season, which means the NHL is missing out on around 180 to 190 games. Thats a lot more than 10. The playoffs are also a huge revenue driver for the league, especially as most games are nationally and internationally broadcasted. Let alone Ad revenue, merch sales, etc. For a league like the NHL I'm sure than number is closer to a billion than you think it is. Although it doesnt seem like your the kind of person that would understand economics


The league lost 10 games. No one counts all the games together. No one. It's 82 games a year.
They lost roughly 10. or 1/8.

The playoffs do not generate a "huge revenue. And certainly not more than the regular season. That's just patently false. If you used your last two brain cells you could figure this out.
1st, the playoffs are already added into the TV contract totals. They don't get more during the playoffs than they do the regular season for games televised. And there are games televised daily in the regular season. Matter of fact there are more games on tv during the regular season than most of the playoffs. So lets just stop that nonsense dim wit thought right there.

Second. There is limited gait revenue in the playoffs. for 1/2 the playoffs it's 1 or 2 stadiums selling tickets. Not 15, where a lot of clubs have regular sellouts.
So lets stop pretending there is "more money" in the playoffs than the regular season. Even a 5th grader with basic math skills can figure out there isn't.
The vast majority of their revenue comes from gate sales. It comes from the regular season. Which is why the league has said repeatedly, their goal is to finish the regular season. Because that's where the money is. While the TV networks might make the most in selling ad time from the games. The NHL does not. They sign a deal and it's a yearly amount regardless. They don't get paid more for one point of time than the other as the rights are sold packaged.

So no, it's not anywhere close to a billion. Even if all playoff seats were $100 and every stadium held 20,000 it's only 2 million at the gate. So you make 2-4 million for half the playoffs on gate sales.
I'm sure there are some seats that cost more but there are some that cost less. Either way, It's not nearly the revenue you claim it is and it's before taxes. That's why they have 82 freaking games. It's only after time does it add up.
The TV contracts are most likely insured, and pro rated. So while they might lose a portion of it, those whole contracts are roughly 500 million or less.

Their loss is no where near 1 billion. It's not even close to 1 billion.
A few hundred million ok, maybe. But if they don't play a regular season, he vast majority of that is lost. And since they can't fill an area in the middle of the plague a lot of that money is also lost.
So the only money they would be making back is their tv money. Their 500 million divided by 8 is like 62 million.
Wow..... so close to 1 billion.

They ain't restarting **** without fans.
Otherwise, they would have already done it. And it's too late to pretend they are going to play regular season games. They just don't want to call it yet. At best you'd be looking at may. But you'd be 2 months behind. They wouldn't finish till august. F up the draft, FA, and mess up next year.....
It's over. Get over it Keynes.
11 avr. 2020 à 3 h 56
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The league lost 10 games. No one counts all the games together. No one. It's 82 games a year.
They lost roughly 10. or 1/8.

The playoffs do not generate a "huge revenue. And certainly not more than the regular season. That's just patently false. If you used your last two brain cells you could figure this out.
1st, the playoffs are already added into the TV contract totals. They don't get more during the playoffs than they do the regular season for games televised. And there are games televised daily in the regular season. Matter of fact there are more games on tv during the regular season than most of the playoffs. So lets just stop that nonsense dim wit thought right there.

Second. There is limited gait revenue in the playoffs. for 1/2 the playoffs it's 1 or 2 stadiums selling tickets. Not 15, where a lot of clubs have regular sellouts.
So lets stop pretending there is "more money" in the playoffs than the regular season. Even a 5th grader with basic math skills can figure out there isn't.
The vast majority of their revenue comes from gate sales. It comes from the regular season. Which is why the league has said repeatedly, their goal is to finish the regular season. Because that's where the money is. While the TV networks might make the most in selling ad time from the games. The NHL does not. They sign a deal and it's a yearly amount regardless. They don't get paid more for one point of time than the other as the rights are sold packaged.

So no, it's not anywhere close to a billion. Even if all playoff seats were $100 and every stadium held 20,000 it's only 2 million at the gate. So you make 2-4 million for half the playoffs on gate sales.
I'm sure there are some seats that cost more but there are some that cost less. Either way, It's not nearly the revenue you claim it is and it's before taxes. That's why they have 82 freaking games. It's only after time does it add up.
The TV contracts are most likely insured, and pro rated. So while they might lose a portion of it, those whole contracts are roughly 500 million or less.

Their loss is no where near 1 billion. It's not even close to 1 billion.
A few hundred million ok, maybe. But if they don't play a regular season, he vast majority of that is lost. And since they can't fill an area in the middle of the plague a lot of that money is also lost.
So the only money they would be making back is their tv money. Their 500 million divided by 8 is like 62 million.
Wow..... so close to 1 billion.

They ain't restarting **** without fans.
Otherwise, they would have already done it. And it's too late to pretend they are going to play regular season games. They just don't want to call it yet. At best you'd be looking at may. But you'd be 2 months behind. They wouldn't finish till august. F up the draft, FA, and mess up next year.....
It's over. Get over it Keynes.


Pretty much everything you said is wrong thats why your last 2 comments have been laden with personal attacks for 0 reason at all
11 avr. 2020 à 6 h 25
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Pretty much everything you said is wrong thats why your last 2 comments have been laden with personal attacks for 0 reason at all


really because being in lock down for weeks they know who is and is not infected. It's not like they don't have access to the test kids. it's a proven fact rich people do.

They could have easily started games with no fans at this point. And you are hardly one to talk about personal attacks.

The only way they can even let the economy restart is to test everyone before walking into a work place to make sure.
There is no way they can do that for sport events.
Which means you are looking at months without such things returning.
You clearly did not think out any of position. 2 stadiums full of fans does not bring in the money of 15 stadiums with probably 1/3 being sellouts if not more. Not that there will be any fans.
And the TV contracts ARE packaged deals. It's a 1 year payment. They are not paid more or less for any game. They pay for rights. And the amounts are well known.
4 mai 2020 à 20 h 16
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really because being in lock down for weeks they know who is and is not infected. It's not like they don't have access to the test kids. it's a proven fact rich people do.

They could have easily started games with no fans at this point. And you are hardly one to talk about personal attacks.

The only way they can even let the economy restart is to test everyone before walking into a work place to make sure.
There is no way they can do that for sport events.
Which means you are looking at months without such things returning.
You clearly did not think out any of position. 2 stadiums full of fans does not bring in the money of 15 stadiums with probably 1/3 being sellouts if not more. Not that there will be any fans.
And the TV contracts ARE packaged deals. It's a 1 year payment. They are not paid more or less for any game. They pay for rights. And the amounts are well known.


Remember when you said Hydroxychloroquine was fake news the NHL wasnt going to lose 1 billion dollars if the season was cancelled lol
4 mai 2020 à 20 h 24
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Remember when you said Hydroxychloroquine was fake news the NHL wasnt going to lose 1 billion dollars if the season was cancelled lol


A i never said a damn thing on Hydroxychloroquine, i dare you to post that.
And I will say on it now, that it's proven not to work.

And B. They aren't going to lose 1 billion if the season is cancled. They played 90% of the games.
You go ahead and do the basic math and you'll figure that out.
4 mai 2020 à 20 h 50
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The NHL stands to lose over a Billion dollars if they dont come back, Corona-chan is a joke, and Hydroxychloroquine works


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Fake news


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2 second hand accounts disagrees with that. Both my friends were off ventilators within a day of starting Hydroxychloroquine 


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Cool story bro.


B. cancelling the season causes $1.1 billion in lost revenue, insanely high (35%+) escrow for all players, and 12 NHL teams would be hit even harder with rollovers in Fox Sports regional rights - which require a regular season to be finished. This has been elaborated on in numerous stories. "Tickets are not the largest source of income for the league; according to Forbes data gathered by sports economist Rodney Fort, they made up somewhere between 20 and 25 percent of league revenues in 2018-19." Https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-coronaviruss-economic-effect-on-sports-could-be-staggering/
They also havent played 90% closer to 75% when you factor in playoffs and playoffs are easily the highest draw
5 mai 2020 à 10 h 28
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B. cancelling the season causes $1.1 billion in lost revenue, insanely high (35%+) escrow for all players, and 12 NHL teams would be hit even harder with rollovers in Fox Sports regional rights - which require a regular season to be finished. This has been elaborated on in numerous stories. "Tickets are not the largest source of income for the league; according to Forbes data gathered by sports economist Rodney Fort, they made up somewhere between 20 and 25 percent of league revenues in 2018-19." Https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-coronaviruss-economic-effect-on-sports-could-be-staggering/
They also havent played 90% closer to 75% when you factor in playoffs and playoffs are easily the highest draw


the playoffs are 105 games max. although the best 105 games.
teams have played roughly 71 games.
so 11 games x 31 clubs.
It is roughly if you count playoffs 17% of games.
I didn't count playoffs, so you are looking at 13% roughly 90% played.

And it is a well docmented fact that gate revenue is still the NHL largest section of revenue. You just like to make crap up.
You can go look up the TV contract amounts. 200 million a year on the US deal. Divide that by 31 teams and it's a whooping 6.4 million per team.
Yeah, ok, keep thinking they make more of TV rights. The Canada deal is worth double at 12.8 million per team. It's not close to where the money comes from. Those are the largest 2. There is nothing else even close to that. It's not like all the deals aren't out there for everyone to see.
You are clueless.
It's a nonsense idea to think they lose all the TV revenue based on the end of the season. The stations make a killing playong 87% of the regular season with all the TV ads. They get their cut on all of it.
Even if you say it's 83% complete, good luck showing me 1 billion in revenue lost.
Hell you got 600 million in the largest two contracts and everything else is worth WAY less than that.

but keep blowing smoke.

and cool story bro doesn't mean Hydroxychloroquine is or is not effective. Not that it is, it's been proven that it isn't at this point. You can easily google that. But like an uneducated person keep rambling.
It's the simple point that Hydroxychloroquine wasn't going to allow them to have mass gatherings. And it hasn't.

But go on. keep with your nonsense.
Troll away little man.
5 mai 2020 à 12 h 8
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the playoffs are 105 games max. although the best 105 games.
teams have played roughly 71 games.
so 11 games x 31 clubs.
It is roughly if you count playoffs 17% of games.
I didn't count playoffs, so you are looking at 13% roughly 90% played.

And it is a well docmented fact that gate revenue is still the NHL largest section of revenue. You just like to make crap up.
You can go look up the TV contract amounts. 200 million a year on the US deal. Divide that by 31 teams and it's a whooping 6.4 million per team.
Yeah, ok, keep thinking they make more of TV rights. The Canada deal is worth double at 12.8 million per team. It's not close to where the money comes from. Those are the largest 2. There is nothing else even close to that. It's not like all the deals aren't out there for everyone to see.
You are clueless.
It's a nonsense idea to think they lose all the TV revenue based on the end of the season. The stations make a killing playong 87% of the regular season with all the TV ads. They get their cut on all of it.
Even if you say it's 83% complete, good luck showing me 1 billion in revenue lost.
Hell you got 600 million in the largest two contracts and everything else is worth WAY less than that.

but keep blowing smoke.

and cool story bro doesn't mean Hydroxychloroquine is or is not effective. Not that it is, it's been proven that it isn't at this point. You can easily google that. But like an uneducated person keep rambling.
It's the simple point that Hydroxychloroquine wasn't going to allow them to have mass gatherings. And it hasn't.

But go on. keep with your nonsense.
Troll away little man.

https://www.sermo.com/press-releases/largest-statistically-significant-study-by-6200-multi-country-physicians-on-covid-19-uncovers-treatment-patterns-and-puts-pandemic-in-context/
took me 10 seconds. In fact the only studies that are negative are unpublished, not peer reviewed, or dont follow the protocol of HC + Zinc + Vitamin D
5 mai 2020 à 22 h 35
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https://www.sermo.com/press-releases/largest-statistically-significant-study-by-6200-multi-country-physicians-on-covid-19-uncovers-treatment-patterns-and-puts-pandemic-in-context/
took me 10 seconds. In fact the only studies that are negative are unpublished, not peer reviewed, or dont follow the protocol of HC + Zinc + Vitamin D


Don’t try to talk with tbat stubborn dude. He know about everything, no one around here have any kind of knowledge. He is the holy greatness. You could be the most hyped bacteriological specialist in the world you would be at is level. Don’t waste time with him.
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