If the rangers offered the leafs fox + buchnevich for nylander, leafs should take that in a heartbeat. Fox is already an elite two way Dman who can play alongside Reilly and he has 2 years left on his ELC

I really hope this is a joke! Adam Fox is the best player in that trade. Go to bed.

Nylander took a step this year and that coupled with his salary being significantly lower than many who produce at his level, he should have pretty high trade value. A guy like marner, making about 4 million more than him might struggle to get the return nylander would.

i freely admit i thought nylander had plateaued as a 20 point 55-65 point guy and he clearly showed this year he can do more

I'd rather trade Marner.

one good season does not make u better. Could just be having a good season.

I could see a trade like happening. Still weary about Fox. His first year has been amazing in the NHL but I am just worried next year his production could drop. I would say the safer option could be Deangelo but that kid could command 4.5 on his next contract and hes not as good defensively. So when it comes to that Fox fits better for that 925k Cap and the fact dubas wont need to sigh him till 2023. As for buchnevich sure he can replace nylander and play with matthews. Originally I was thinking about strome but realized hes playing with Panarin so stats boost right there.

One good season and done sounds like Ghost in Philly.

Fox > deangelo > trouba.

Yeah strome is a product of panarin

Marner pushed both J.T. and Matthews to near 50 goal seasons with his elite play making, without Marner j.T. and Matthews turn into a Sundin, just a 30 + goal guy.

Nonsense.

Matthews was an elite goal scorer on an elite goal scoring pace long before he played with Marner. JT has always been a point producer no matter what scrubs he was paired with in the past.

Marner makes far too much money. Love the player, hate the AAV. There is no denying that he gets a lot of his counting stats through his playmaking and his assist totals back that up.

That being said... He is the guy that should go IMO. He could return a tonne and wiping almost 11 million dollars off of the books is just fine with me.

Marner's 10.9 million makes him harder to trade, most likely leading the Leafs to accept a garbage contract in return in any trade contacts concerning him. Nylander is actually the easier and better trade bait player to trade.

Don't forget that Marner's first 2 seasons he helped pushed Kadri to back to back 32 goal seasons (Kadri only hit the 20 goal mark once in his career). Now he leads J.T. (he has only scored more than 35 twice before lining up beside Marner) and Matthews (scored 10 more goals with Marner than playing with Nylander the previous season) to 47 goals each in back to back seasons. 158 goals his centers have scored in his 300 NHL games.

I haven't forgotten anything.

I am also not disputing that Marner gets a great deal of assists.

It is not realistic to compare Matthews season this year in terms of goals vs the past two because Matthews missed significant time with injuries. In addition, Marner has not spent the entire season playing with Matthews so the suggestion that Matthews' increase in goals is a direct correlation to playing with Marner is false data. Matthews will get his goals regardless of who he plays with, (Nylander or Marner).

Marner makes far too much money for what it is that he provides. That is why he should be the one who is traded IMO.

I don't think that the Leafs are likely to trade him at all. I am just saying that HE would be my choice of one of 91, 16, 34, or 88 were to be moved.

Like I said before, Love the player, hate the contract. It is still a very tradeable contract and I would not be worried about the Leafs not receiving proper value in return.

Agree to disagree on this and that is just fine with me.

Well we both agree Dubas is a **** for overpaying all his RFA's.