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Créé par: wmorrow585
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 2 mars 2020
Publié: 2 mars 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2800 000 $
3900 000 $
3800 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
32 500 000 $
11 100 000 $
54 750 000 $
1850 000 $
55 000 000 $
77 250 000 $
1975 000 $
33 200 000 $
21 400 000 $
11 000 000 $
33 500 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
32 000 000 $
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BUF
  1. Turris, Kyle (3 000 000 $ retained)
NSH
  1. Kukkonen, Miska [Liste de réserve]
  2. Smith, C.J.
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BUF
CBJ
  1. Davidsson, Marcus [Liste de réserve]
  2. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
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2 mars 2020 à 14 h 13
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Wtf is that Columbus trade???

Buffalo declines it easily and Columbus has no interest in adding a RHD who’d be on their 3rd pair and making 5.4 mil... then you’re adding a prospect and a pick?

That’s really a bad trade for buffalo.
2 mars 2020 à 14 h 16
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Quoting: Ajp_18
Wtf is that Columbus trade???

Buffalo declines it easily and Columbus has no interest in adding a RHD who’d be on their 3rd pair and making 5.4 mil... then you’re adding a prospect and a pick?

That’s really a bad trade for buffalo.


Rumors that Buffalo was trying to trade for Anderson at the deadline. It involved Risto and more going to Columbus with Anderson and a cap dump going the other way
2 mars 2020 à 14 h 18
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Rumors that Buffalo was trying to trade for Anderson at the deadline. It involved Risto and more going to Columbus with Anderson and a cap dump going the other way


Where in the world did you read that?

The only reason that would happen at the deadline was because Jones is out for the remainder of the season. My guess is the cap dump is Dubinsky, not Nash.
2 mars 2020 à 14 h 20
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Quoting: Ajp_18
Where in the world did you read that?

The only reason that would happen at the deadline was because Jones is out for the remainder of the season. My guess is the cap dump is Dubinsky, not Nash.


https://open.spotify.com/episode/2mGIQKT71d5ZHJOhNodgNc

Towards the end of the podcast, same guy that broke the E-Rod and Sheary trade
2 mars 2020 à 14 h 25
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https://open.spotify.com/episode/2mGIQKT71d5ZHJOhNodgNc

Towards the end of the podcast, same guy that broke the E-Rod and Sheary trade


Interesting.... I doubt buffalo would make this trade with the season Anderson had. He’s also since left the team and had shoulder surgery. Not sure Anderson holds enough value for Risto + and buffalo take a cap dump back....
2 mars 2020 à 14 h 30
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Interesting.... I doubt buffalo would make this trade with the season Anderson had. He’s also since left the team and had shoulder surgery. Not sure Anderson holds enough value for Risto + and buffalo take a cap dump back....


Yeah I could see that being true and I hope it is for the Sabres sake
2 mars 2020 à 14 h 35
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Preds pass. I think one of Turris or Johansen would be a good off season target for BUF, but NSH is going to want some actual assets coming back.
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2 mars 2020 à 15 h 14
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NSH will never retain that much in any Turris trade
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2 mars 2020 à 15 h 26
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NSH will never retain that much in any Turris trade


Lol, I didn't even see the retention! Absolutely no way the OP gets accepted.
2 mars 2020 à 15 h 30
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Lol, I didn't even see the retention! Absolutely no way the OP gets accepted.


thats fair. Do you think a deal could be worked around Okposo for Turris?
2 mars 2020 à 15 h 36
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thats fair. Do you think a deal could be worked around Okposo for Turris?


As a Preds fan, I hope not. Turris has responded well to the coaching change. I'd rather move Johansen than Turris, but I have no interest in Okposo for either of them.
2 mars 2020 à 16 h 3
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thats fair. Do you think a deal could be worked around Okposo for Turris?


I agree with @gmgb above for the most part. Turris can still play and he is showing that he still has value when used properly. It's just that he is making maybe $1-1.5m more than he should given his current production, which isn't really that bad as far as contracts go. Okposo is playing fine in his 4th line role, but that's what he is now - a 4th liner. Turris is still a top 6 / middle-6 center that can produce between 40 and 55 points if given proper teammates (and not sitting in the doghouse like he did with Laviolette did for many games) which would give more justification to his current contract AAV. So I think if the Preds were realistically trading Turris, they would not be looking at it as a cap dump or dumping a bad contract; they would be looking to get legitimate assets. They may be willing to take on a short-term bad contract (within reason) to do that, but they won't just throw Turris away with a Neal/Lucic-like swap or a Marleau + 1st type of trade.
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2 mars 2020 à 21 h 40
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Quoting: gmgb
Preds pass. I think one of Turris or Johansen would be a good off season target for BUF, but NSH is going to want some actual assets coming back.


You’re outta your mind
The ONLY way Nashville would be able to get rid of Turris & that awful contract is by keeping half his salary
AND
giving up an asset to get someone to take him


And btw...
This is a horrible idea for Buffalo
He’s not even a good 4C for the Preds,
and he’s slotted in at 2C for the Sabres???
That’s a great idea if they wanna pick in the top10... AGAIN
3 mars 2020 à 4 h 2
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You’re outta your mind
The ONLY way Nashville would be able to get rid of Turris & that awful contract is by keeping half his salary
AND
giving up an asset to get someone to take him




And btw...
This is a horrible idea for Buffalo
He’s not even a good 4C for the Preds,
and he’s slotted in at 2C for the Sabres???
That’s a great idea if they wanna pick in the top10... AGAIN


You clearly haven't been watching Nashville play since the coaching change. Turris is healthy again (unlike last season), out of the ex-coach's doghouse and is finding his game again. @villenash is accurate in that he's still slightly overpaid currently, but he's still a decent and capable 2nd line center. He could be the gap year(s) center BUF needs, then a solid expansion draft selection for Seattle when you're done with him. You're hating on him like he's worse than Okposo.
3 mars 2020 à 4 h 43
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You clearly haven't been watching Nashville play since the coaching change. Turris is healthy again (unlike last season), out of the ex-coach's doghouse and is finding his game again. @villenash is accurate in that he's still slightly overpaid currently, but he's still a decent and capable 2nd line center. He could be the gap year(s) center BUF needs, then a solid expansion draft selection for Seattle when you're done with him. You're hating on him like he's worse than Okposo.


😂😂😂 Turris blows
GMs aren’t gonna be fooled by a small sample size when his stats have been declining for years
He hasn’t even been a good 3C for you guys,
let alone be a “quality 2C” for anyone
Nice try
Put away the homer glasses though

Turris is playing so well under your coach now that u shouldn’t wanna trade the “capable 2C” anyways

We’ll gladly take Bonino off your hands though
Bc we’d actually like a good player
Thanks
3 mars 2020 à 11 h 8
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😂😂😂 Turris blows
GMs aren’t gonna be fooled by a small sample size when his stats have been declining for years
He hasn’t even been a good 3C for you guys,
let alone be a “quality 2C” for anyone
Nice try
Put away the homer glasses though

Turris is playing so well under your coach now that u shouldn’t wanna trade the “capable 2C” anyways

We’ll gladly take Bonino off your hands though
Bc we’d actually like a good player
Thanks


Over the past five seasons:
2015-2016 (OTT - looks like he was limited by injuries)--> 30 points in 57 games
2016-2017 (OTT) --> 55 points in 78 games
2017-2018 (traded to NSH 12 games into the season) --> 51 points in 76 games
2018-2019 (injury season) --> 23 points in 55 games
2019-2020 (Laviolette fired, Hynes hired) --> 29 points in 58 games

He was traded to NSH at the start of the 2017-2018 season and performed well. In the following season, he injured his foot/ankle and it shows with his point totals. After that, Laviolette lost faith in him. So to start the 2019-2020 season, he was stuck to the fourth line playing mostly with a combination of Sissons, Jarnkrok, Watson, and any AHL call-ups. He was given teammates that do not typically produce much offense, so he, as well, did not produce much offense. However, since Hynes has been the coach, Turris has arguably been the Predators best center. Although he is still producing at a similar rate as earlier in the year, he is playing a much better overall game. Unfortunately, most NSH players are having a down year offensively, so it is not especially fair to use this one season against any of them as they are all kinda disappointing right now -- except maybe the Grimaldi/Bonino.

All that said, you can look at this however you want. I look last season as a dip in production because of a lingering foot/ankle injury that affected his play. This season he was not given the real chance to play until late in the season -- you can say the benching was justified or not, but you can't produce unless you're on the ice. So I am really curious how he rebounds next season. If that happens on the Preds, I will be perfectly happy -- if it happens on another team, I'll be cheering for him. I do not mind keeping Turris for the duration of his contract.

Honestly, if I was Poile and I was looking to trade a center, I would trade Johansen. I don't see Poile trading Duchene after just signing him, and I think Johansen would get a better return. And Turris can still handle the second line center position and put up between 40-55 points.
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4 mars 2020 à 5 h 11
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Quoting: villenash
Over the past five seasons:
2015-2016 (OTT - looks like he was limited by injuries)--> 30 points in 57 games
2016-2017 (OTT) --> 55 points in 78 games
2017-2018 (traded to NSH 12 games into the season) --> 51 points in 76 games
2018-2019 (injury season) --> 23 points in 55 games
2019-2020 (Laviolette fired, Hynes hired) --> 29 points in 58 games

He was traded to NSH at the start of the 2017-2018 season and performed well. In the following season, he injured his foot/ankle and it shows with his point totals. After that, Laviolette lost faith in him. So to start the 2019-2020 season, he was stuck to the fourth line playing mostly with a combination of Sissons, Jarnkrok, Watson, and any AHL call-ups. He was given teammates that do not typically produce much offense, so he, as well, did not produce much offense. However, since Hynes has been the coach, Turris has arguably been the Predators best center. Although he is still producing at a similar rate as earlier in the year, he is playing a much better overall game. Unfortunately, most NSH players are having a down year offensively, so it is not especially fair to use this one season against any of them as they are all kinda disappointing right now -- except maybe the Grimaldi/Bonino.

All that said, you can look at this however you want. I look last season as a dip in production because of a lingering foot/ankle injury that affected his play. This season he was not given the real chance to play until late in the season -- you can say the benching was justified or not, but you can't produce unless you're on the ice. So I am really curious how he rebounds next season. If that happens on the Preds, I will be perfectly happy -- if it happens on another team, I'll be cheering for him. I do not mind keeping Turris for the duration of his contract.

Honestly, if I was Poile and I was looking to trade a center, I would trade Johansen. I don't see Poile trading Duchene after just signing him, and I think Johansen would get a better return. And Turris can still handle the second line center position and put up between 40-55 points.


I think you’re looking through big time “homer” glasses here
Can’t even count all the excuses u made
At best, Turris is an “ok” 3C with a contract paying him double what he should be getting
40points is his absolute ceiling going forward...
Unless you’re right, and YEARS of bad circumstances suddenly reverse themselves

Regardless of all that...
even if a team out there thought he could rebound & get back to form from years ago,
no one is gonna touch that contract
Just can’t see it happening dude
 
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