Manson deal will not happen as more likely he is headed to Toronto as perfect 1rst pairing partner with Morgan Rielly and Leafs have the assets to make it happen.

what would that trade be? I was actually a little unsure especially since their firsts in 20 and 21 are kinda locked up based on conditions.

Yeah, and every time a Toronto guy posts a Manson for Ceci, Bracco and a 2021 second trade and we say No, it's gonna cost Liljegren plus, you guys squeal and have to change into dry pants. Exactly what assets that you are willing to part with are you talking about?

@OldNYIfan do you want Liljegren? Im not that big on him and honestly I fought myself from putting two first from wpg especially with bufs contract. That being Manson is probably not going anywhere which is ayeokay with me.

JOHNSSON BRACCO AND SOMETHING ELSE THAT DOESNT FIT THE DUCKS NEEDS! BuT eVeRyOnE uNdErVaLuEs LeAvEs PlAyErZzZzZ

I am thinking as a starting point for a possible trade in say Johnsson, Dermott, prospect and later round draft pick on the assumption that Manson also redoes a long-term contract with the Leafs. Manson is absolutely the perfect right hand defenceman that the Leafs need. The Ducks need to bottom out and start accumulating younger players and draft picks. Ducks owe it to Manson to move him to a good team and not waste his talent during a rebuild.

Yeah, it’s gonna take an overpay to get any Ducks fan here to agree to love Manson. I’m quite happy to keep him honestly. Lots of cap room in the offseason to fill the holes, and Manson is a beauty.

@TMLSage only problem bud is were giving you a player with term not a rental. Oh yay tell Johnson and Dermott to kick rocks just my opinion. not bad players

That is true but I am giving you two really solid and younger players to rebuild your team around going forward.

Yup, you’re right, Ducks are so old, most of them sat behind Jesus in second grade.

Steel, Terry, Guhle, Larsson, Mahura, Rakell, Jones, Olivier-Groulx, Gibby, Morand, Tracey, Lundestrom, Andersson and Comtois are all past their prime, and Zegras is a bust. Better give Manson to the Leafs for players that don’t fill their needs! Might as well throw in that high 1st round pick this year, because Murray has NEVER been able to draft well.

@TMLSage your doing opposite tho. We don't need another LHD and Johnsson is in his mid 20's we just traded a better player in his mid 20's. We need 18 yo's and 1st/2nd picks.

Manson and Getzlaf are being wasted in Anaheim. These are two really elite hockey players that need to be playing for a team that is actually going to compete in the Stanley Cup playoffs. Ducks need to get on with the rebuild and ship these 2 winners out for younger players and draft picks and get on with the rebuild which is going to take another 4 years.

I’ll give you Ritchie and Larsson for Morgan Rielly. Two young players to save you from CapDoom.

I think Dermott can play on the right side and he might help you guys get McDavid down the road as he played with Connor on Erie Otters junior team.

I never said the Ducks were too old and only said Ducks should trade Getzlaff and Manson and load up with more younger players and draft picks to finish the rebuild. You might also be very interested in Adam Brooks as he and Sam Steel were dynamite together on the Regina Pats four years ago.

@TMLSage I completely agree with the timeline and id say your being very nice about it. more like 6 years. Anyways, we'll see what Getz wants to do next year at the deadline and as a UFA. I get the impression he wants to stay. Manson on the other hand we got 3 years baby and we can wait a year for the right deal for whatever is value is atm. This year is probably not gonna happen.

That’s the Leafiest Leafs dream that I’ve ever heard. “Undersell on Manson, because Dermott might be able to convince McDavid to become a Duck”

Cmonnnnn.

Getzy is a career duck. Ducks need a solid RD, and a solid scoring option up front. They’ve got a ton of cap room in the offseason.

Rielly is in top 5 defenceman in entire NHL and is only 25 years old and was a captain candidate on the Leafs before Tavares was selected so your deal does not seem fair even though I really like Nick Ritchie.

The WHL isn’t the NHL. Every single connection doesn’t mean that it works in the NHL.

As for the “old” comment, my apologies, I took “they need to sell off everything” as a “their time has passed because they’re old”. You just think they suck, and that’s fine. They’ve got one of the top 2 goalies in the NHL. They’ve got a d core that has Lindholm, Fowler and Manson. They’ve got a solid prospect pool. Add a top 4 RD, and a solid scoring threat up front, and all of the sudden this team surprises everyone.

I wasn’t being serious, I was trying to point out how foolish trading a very good player for “two really solid and good young guys (THAT DONT FILL THE TEAMS NEEDS) to build your team around”. Nobody is building a team around friggin Johnsson and Dermott, and if they are, they’re going to have a longer cup drought than the Leafs.

I mean, the good news for the Ducks is at least they’re not a playoff bubble team.

Sounds like Ducks are in much better shape than the Sharks and Kings to return to a highly competitive team faster. There is a trade off to consider whether to hold on to proven veteran players to help mentor the team's younger players vs trade them off for younger players and draft picks in rebuilding a hockey team. Not saying what is best for the Ducks but sometimes the fastest way to rebuild is to tear down a team and then complete rebuild.

Yeah, I think the big thing here is this-Kesler is really the only bad contract, and it’s on LTIR. He’s done.

After that, they aren’t in cap trouble (unlike SJ and LA).

I’d be fine to trade off someone like Silfverberg, but I don’t see how moving a guy like Manson without being overpaid for him helps anything. And if you’re trading off vets like Manson, Getzy, etc, you’ve pulled a Montreal-type move and wasted the prime years of your franchise goalie.

Getz isn't going anywhere most likely, by his choice, fill NTC and has publicly stated he doesn't want to chase a cup to end his career

All good points. I can tell you that I am a Leaf fan and I am hearing that Leafs are still kicking tires on Manson and Severson and would not be surprised if Leafs step up and actually over pay for Manson, which as you have said at that point, the Ducks would have to seriously consider pulling the trigger and trading him to the Leafs.

I like the way the Canucks have rebuilt their team through the draft after bottoming out for around 5 years but have drafted Vertanen, Boeser, Petterson, Hughes etc....and are now becomming a really good team. Sometimes the fastest way back to a really competitive team is to tear down your team for a few years and rebuild instead of trying to always be competitive.

I've been saying this for months, and this Kase trade shows that A. GMBM is f*cking clueless at player evaluations, and B. He has no plan for the team, you don't trade Kase unless you're just selling everything in which case you sell your Rico's and your Silf's and your Getz's etc, but we're not doing that, and even if we were to do that, it's not nessicary, this team isn't that far away, and that loaded down with terrible contracts, nor are they stuck in the mediocrity of a Minnesota, we're bad enough on our own that we'll be able to fill one of our two main voids at the draft this summer (along with Zegras and Kase/Raks I wouldn't have been that worried about our long term forward group... Now this just places a lot more pressure on Raks to maintain his top line calibre play) then we'd be one or two pieces away from being a dark horse team, but GMBM is clueless