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a D man and a C

Créé par: Trickster
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 20 févr. 2020
Publié: 20 févr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
How is value in this trade?
Would appreciate helpful input.

Moved Lindgren to make room for other D bodies with Marlies to develop.


I want Leafs to expose Muzzin to expansion draft.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
4894 000 $
4894 000 $
4894 000 $
4894 000 $
4894 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 750 000 $
21 250 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
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2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
3800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
45 500 000 $
1700 000 $
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NJD
  1. Bracco, Jeremy [Droits de RFA]
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Kerfoot, Alexander
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
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TOR
    To any team for future considerations
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    C
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    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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    C, AG
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    AD
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    C, AG
    UFA - 2
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    800 000 $800 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
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    700 000 $700 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    DG
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    DD
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    G
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    DG
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    G
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    DG
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    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
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    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 8
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    Quoting: Sign_em_up000000
    For the sake of my sanity, I hope not lol. Before he came into the league I wanted Weber and still do I just don't want his contract.


    Likely chance Jones does not sign extension in Columbus???
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 9
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    Well @Sign_em_up000000 you got jamie on board.


    There's still room for you @oneX and the rest of Leafs Nation😜 lol
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 10
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    Quoting: Trickster
    Likely chance Jones does not sign extension in Columbus???


    It's all dependent on how well they're doing then and what they're offering him because if he hits FA he's getting paid...
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 10
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    There's still room for you @oneX and the rest of Leafs Nation😜 lol


    Oh I'm on the ship, trust.
    Just thought it would too greedy of us to think we can get Woo.
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 12
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    I know what your saying, I just believe in Tryamkin.
    Gut feeling.


    I do agree we need a RD 1st pair.
    3rd pair, dont think it matters as long as the D plays decently.


    We all have depth players we like... Nothing wrong with adding a big blue liner who won't cost much.
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 12
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    Quoting: Sign_em_up000000
    It's all dependent on how well they're doing then and what they're offering him because if he hits FA he's getting paid...


    He will almost be 30 the right?
    What would your offer $$$$ wise?
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 13
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    Quoting: Trickster
    I know what your saying, I just believe in Tryamkin.
    Gut feeling.


    I do agree we need a RD 1st pair.
    3rd pair, dont think it matters as long as the D plays decently.


    Leafs won’t need lhd next year. Marincin and possibly a cheap vet to sit in the pressbox. Fill in for injuries.

    My idea and I will just go with the big unreasonable, unrealistic trade and you can critique the parts you like or do not.

    Toronto Maple Leafs
    *return from Barrie*
    Kerfoot
    Dermott
    Johnsson

    New Jersey Devils
    Severson
    Zacha
    Mueller
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 15
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    Quoting: Jamiepo
    Leafs won’t need lhd next year. Marincin and possibly a cheap vet to sit in the pressbox. Fill in for injuries.

    My idea and I will just go with the big unreasonable, unrealistic trade and you can critique the parts you like or do not.

    Toronto Maple Leafs
    *return from Barrie*
    Kerfoot
    Dermott
    Johnsson

    New Jersey Devils
    Severson
    Zacha
    Mueller


    I like it, wouldnt mind a prospect instead of Mueller.
    Look at this ACGM cool
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 16
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    Oh I'm on the ship, trust.
    Just thought it would too greedy of us to think we can get Woo.


    Maybe, but what's wrong with taking advantage of a situation where a bad gm who's in love with a player will overpay? If not then see what else is out there and weigh your options.
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 17
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    I like it, wouldnt mind a prospect instead of Mueller.
    Look at this ACGM cool


    Mueller replaces Dermott till Rielly returns I want Marincin in the pressbox andvlilly back out there. This is just a quick basis.
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 18
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    Quoting: Jamiepo
    Mueller replaces Dermott till Rielly returns I want Marincin in the pressbox andvlilly back out there. This is just a quick basis.


    Oh so your saying do your trade now???
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 21
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    He will almost be 30 the right?
    What would your offer $$$$ wise?


    I'd offer whatever it took whether it be trade or FA but I obviously have a huge bias. That's my problem when I try to make ACGMs for him because I start thinking about him and Rielly (a paring I've wanted to see since before he was drafted) and value and evaluation go out the door, but can you blame me? I'd move mountains to be able to pair him and Rielly up.
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 22
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    Oh so your saying do your trade now???


    No this is a trade I proposed in a thread recently. Not trying to plagiarize you lol. To be honest I like your trade better but I think the devils decline. If they are moving servers in they will need D in return. The devils could use an upgrade on both sides. Think that makes them a good trade partner for the leafs.
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 27
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    Quoting: Jamiepo
    Leafs won’t need lhd next year. Marincin and possibly a cheap vet to sit in the pressbox. Fill in for injuries.

    My idea and I will just go with the big unreasonable, unrealistic trade and you can critique the parts you like or do not.

    Toronto Maple Leafs
    *return from Barrie*
    Kerfoot
    Dermott
    Johnsson

    New Jersey Devils
    Severson
    Zacha
    Mueller


    You know how much I like Johnsson and I've been advocating for Dermott to leaf fans because I don't think he's a finished product but I would 💯 do this trade as currently constructed. The only thing I'd do if I were Dubas is see if we could either give up a little less or ask for a little more in return, but I would do this deal if this is what it took. You're probably spot on with what the trade would look like tho.... Well done sir!
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 28
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    I like it, wouldnt mind a prospect instead of Mueller.
    Look at this ACGM cool


    I liked Muller when he was drafted but I'll admit he hasn't hit his celling but I'd still take him... He would be a nice fit IMO.
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 29
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    Quoting: Jamiepo
    Mueller replaces Dermott till Rielly returns I want Marincin in the pressbox andvlilly back out there. This is just a quick basis.


    I think you hit the nail on the head.
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 34
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    Quoting: Jamiepo
    No this is a trade I proposed in a thread recently. Not trying to plagiarize you lol. To be honest I like your trade better but I think the devils decline. If they are moving servers in they will need D in return. The devils could use an upgrade on both sides. Think that makes them a good trade partner for the leafs.


    Ok here is my Barrie Vancouver offer revised, tell me what you think :

    Barrie
    Timashov
    (Maybe add a pick if necessary)

    For

    Virtanen
    Rights to Tryamkin
    3rd rounder

    Then flip Tryamkin and 3rd rounder with Kerfoot, Johnsson, Dermott and Bracco for Severson, Zacha, and Mueller.


    @Sign_em_up000000 what you think too?
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 35
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    @Trickster I actually like your trade better... I've been going back and forth I forgot what ACGM I was commenting on and what your trade was lol. Although, I do like Muller over Clarke but like I said, I don't know anything about him lol.
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 36
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    Ok here is my Barrie Vancouver offer revised, tell me what you think :

    Barrie
    Timashov
    (Maybe add a pick if necessary)

    For

    Virtanen
    Rights to Tryamkin
    3rd rounder

    Then flip Tryamkin and 3rd rounder with Kerfoot, Johnsson, Dermott and Bracco for Severson, Zacha, and Mueller.


    @Sign_em_up000000 what you think too?


    You had me at hello lol 😆
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    20 févr. 2020 à 23 h 43
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    @Trickster I actually like your trade better... I've been going back and forth I forgot what ACGM I was commenting on and what your trade was lol. Although, I do like Muller over Clarke but like I said, I don't know anything about him lol.


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    21 févr. 2020 à 0 h 57
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    Yo @jamiepo or @palhal I think one of you might know the answer to this :

    Can we trade Johnsson in the offseason while he is injured???


    Yes of course... Teams will be just trading for a 3.4m X 3 year winger. Apparently Johnsson will be ready for the playoffs..well if the Leafs make it. The reason Johnsson might be traded is so the Leafs can get cap to get a Dman. There are so many teams near the cap, that trading a guy like Johnsson will be damn near impossible to trade without getting equal cap back. So if the Leafs let's say need Johnsson 3.4m cap relief and he's replaced at wing with a 1m player...that's 2.4m cap relief...The return the Leafs just want future pick might be just a third rounder. Just not a market for a player like him for picks...and the Leafs will be in steep competition to with all those other cap strapped teams.
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    Quoting: palhal
    Yes of course... Teams will be just trading for a 3.4m X 3 year winger. Apparently Johnsson will be ready for the playoffs..well if the Leafs make it. The reason Johnsson might be traded is so the Leafs can get cap to get a Dman. There are so many teams near the cap, that trading a guy like Johnsson will be damn near impossible to trade without getting equal cap back. So if the Leafs let's say need Johnsson 3.4m cap relief and he's replaced at wing with a 1m player...that's 2.4m cap relief...The return the Leafs just want future pick might be just a third rounder. Just not a market for a player like him for picks...and the Leafs will be in steep competition to with all those other cap strapped teams.


    Johnsson is out for 6 months... he can still be traded, would imagine leafs would need to send a conditional pick on how many games he plays next season.
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    21 févr. 2020 à 1 h 10
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    Johnsson is out for 6 months... he can still be traded, would imagine leafs would need to send a conditional pick on how many games he plays next season.


    Let's say the Leafs needed cap to complete their need makeover next summer and Johnsson was the odd man out. If all you could get was 7th rounder without getting cap back in a trade, the Leafs would have to take that deal.
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    Let's say the Leafs needed cap to complete their need makeover next summer and Johnsson was the odd man out. If all you could get was 7th rounder without getting cap back in a trade, the Leafs would have to take that deal.


    Well they wouldn’t have to take it. They could move kerfoot get more savings and more back if his value is perceived higher. Mango had a rough year but he is a good winger on a fair deal.

    I get what you are trying to say but it’s still poor asset management.
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    Well they wouldn’t have to take it. They could move kerfoot get more savings and more back if his value is perceived higher. Mango had a rough year but he is a good winger on a fair deal.

    I get what you are trying to say but it’s still poor asset management.


    I kinda think that's the way it is in a cap league. If a team needs cap space and there are few buyers...the price is gonna be lowered. The Marleau trade...yea a different situation showed the price the Leafs had to pay for a 6.25m non performing cap hit. Gonna be interesting how/if Tampa rids themselves of some M NTC cap or cap in general if they want to sign and retain their RFAs.

    Leafs poor cap management? Generally the Leafs have few bad cap hits, though I will always maintain, that the "big young forwards" were overpaid at time of signing. Plus the never ending 1.2m Kessel retention.
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