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Kreider

Créé par: bruins2k11
Équipe: 2019-20 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 20 févr. 2020
Publié: 20 févr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
BOS
  1. Kreider, Chris (1 700 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (DAL)
NYR
  1. Frederic, Trent
  2. Zboril, Jakub
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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725 000 $725 000 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
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20 févr. 2020 à 13 h 10
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Quoting: Propeller09
Yeah, I mean who doesn't have a history... he was only 34 and still had a couple 20 goal seasons in him. I don't know... I just don't know what the Bruins actually gave up? let's assume the Bruins draft Lunkvist with their pick.

Lundkvist and Lindgren for Nash isn't horrible. Maybe I am not giving either guy enough credit, but it seems like Lindgren is a 4 and and I don't know that much about Lundkvist, but he is by no means an sure thing stud.

Getting rid of Belesky and Spooner was big too.


Bleacher Report snippet:
Rick Nash Traded to Bruins from Rangers for a 2018 first-round pick, defenseman Ryan Lindgren, forwards Ryan Spooner and Matt Beleskey and a 2019 seventh-round selection.
20 févr. 2020 à 13 h 13
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if coleman got a 1st and nolan foote then its gonna taek about the same for kreider considering foote is miles and miles ahead of zboril. yes i know coleman has another year but foote was their top prospect. zboril is nowhere close and the bruins prospect pool isnt great


TBL overpaid to keep Coleman out of the spoked-B.
It's a one-off NOT a market setter.
NHL GMs should know this, unless they are sheep and sheep get slaughtered!
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20 févr. 2020 à 13 h 17
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not even one of their best prospects in a pretty weak prospect pool and a late 1st? give your head shake pal


Yeah - Frederic and Zboril are both pretty decent prospects. Bruins are very Deep on D and Sweeney as a former D man would rather have a vet like Moore or Kampfer sitting aorund over a kid sitting around not playing. Zboril wasn't going to beat out any of their top 5 (McAvoy, Carlo, Krug, Chara or Grzelcyk. So really there was one spot open and with Grz and Krug, they went for the more phyiscal clifton or Lauzon as their 6. Don't get me wrong, he isn't going to be worth of the 1st rd pick, but he could pretty easily turn into a decent NHL Dman and be an decent 2nd pairing guy or a good 3rd pairing D.

Frederic is a tough kid with some skill and pretty good to very good defensively. Bottom 6 Center. Marcus Foligno, but a Center.
20 févr. 2020 à 13 h 18
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Quoting: McGruff
TBL overpaid to keep Coleman out of the spoked-B.
It's a one-off NOT a market setter.
NHL GMs should know this, unless they are sheep and sheep get slaughtered!


maybe so, its the TDL you have to pay, if you think zboril and a 1st is enough like ur buddy over here you are wrong,
20 févr. 2020 à 13 h 21
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Quoting: Propeller09
Yeah - Frederic and Zboril are both pretty decent prospects. Bruins are very Deep on D and Sweeney as a former D man would rather have a vet like Moore or Kampfer sitting aorund over a kid sitting around not playing. Zboril wasn't going to beat out any of their top 5 (McAvoy, Carlo, Krug, Chara or Grzelcyk. So really there was one spot open and with Grz and Krug, they went for the more phyiscal clifton or Lauzon as their 6. Don't get me wrong, he isn't going to be worth of the 1st rd pick, but he could pretty easily turn into a decent NHL Dman and be an decent 2nd pairing guy or a good 3rd pairing D.

frederic i ahe heard good things, but zboril was drafted in 15, sure they are deep on d but i can use that same argument for all the people who rip jeremy bracco, bottom line of my argument is zboril and a 1 will not get you kreider

Frederic is a tough kid with some skill and pretty good to very good defensively. Bottom 6 Center. Marcus Foligno, but a Center.
20 févr. 2020 à 13 h 22
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Quoting: McGruff
Bleacher Report snippet:
Rick Nash Traded to Bruins from Rangers for a 2018 first-round pick, defenseman Ryan Lindgren, forwards Ryan Spooner and Matt Beleskey and a 2019 seventh-round selection.



Rangers believed they were getting basically what they have in Lindgren - bottom 4, not flashy but serviceable defenseman. I’m not sure who still thinks Zboril is a lock to be an nhl defenseman of any consequence. Regardless, the Rangers have drafted a dozen defensemen in the last 2 years at the cost of now being desperate for forwards.
I think they thought they were getting the “other lower level” piece that McKenzie referenced last night with Spooner at the time. He obviously didn’t work out but we were lucky to turn him into Strome.
I think, given Kreider’s age and potential for extending him and his current output, he is better now than Nash was then, so I think asking for a slightly better package is reasonable, especially in this market where there isn’t anyone else out there like him available. Whether they get it, or are forced to either extend him themselves or take a lesser return we will see by Monday afternoon.
20 févr. 2020 à 13 h 23
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Quoting: vr1995
maybe so, its the TDL you have to pay, if you think zboril and a 1st is enough like ur buddy over here you are wrong,


If I'm GM - don't want Krieder at all (period)...
He makes for interesting Hockey Central banter but he's NOT a 2nd Line RW SCORER (period).

EDIT: CK is an older Jake DeBrusk basically...that means the trade ^ ^ if it happens is an "East-West/sideways trade-move when everyone knows the game is won North-South"
20 févr. 2020 à 13 h 25
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i don't understand your logic here, unless you are new to hockey and the process. calling Kreider a meh-rental is as inaccurate as it can get. the guy can play top 6 minutes, top power play and kill a penalty if needed. his speed is undeniable and his intangibles bring importance to the game. not to mention he is in his prime AND playing for his next contract. he has also played in 77 playoff games in his career and his experience going deep into the playoffs is another bonus to which ever team he ends up on. he isn't flashy and does not have that elite status attached to his name, but he is as good as a rental can get, the type of player that tips the scale for which ever team he goes to.

EVERY SINGLE YEAR at the deadline, this site is littered with two types of people - A.) the people that believe their rentals are worth the moon and B.) playoff bound teams that are buyers who want talent for their sh*t prospects because the player they have interest in ISN'T worth it. this is supply and demand and there is no doubt several teams will be driving up the price of Krieder - his worth is merely subjective.

let's be clear, normally the trades that occur happen somewhere between A and B and fans aren't sure whether they are happy or not. if this happens, it usually means that the trade works for both sides. as a Ranger fan, the last team I want Kreider to go to is Boston - 1.) because they have nothing worth giving Kreider up for and 2.) he instantly makes the team better and hate to see Boston win one with him as a part of the team.


It's actually his playoff performance that worries me. Guys who are built like him should get better when the playoffs roll around not worse. .61ppg regular season .48ppg Playoffs.
He is sort of menh. He is one of the best available, but he isn't great. He similarity score is Nyqvist, Saad and Tatar. That is a menh group to me.
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20 févr. 2020 à 13 h 29
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Quoting: Widowmaker
Rangers believed they were getting basically what they have in Lindgren - bottom 4, not flashy but serviceable defenseman. I’m not sure who still thinks Zboril is a lock to be an nhl defenseman of any consequence. Regardless, the Rangers have drafted a dozen defensemen in the last 2 years at the cost of now being desperate for forwards.
I think they thought they were getting the “other lower level” piece that McKenzie referenced last night with Spooner at the time. He obviously didn’t work out but we were lucky to turn him into Strome.
I think, given Kreider’s age and potential for extending him and his current output, he is better now than Nash was then, so I think asking for a slightly better package is reasonable, especially in this market where there isn’t anyone else out there like him available. Whether they get it, or are forced to either extend him themselves or take a lesser return we will see by Monday afternoon.


I see your point on Kreider vs Nash, but I think it might work the other way. Nash was going to resign for less than Kreider will Bruins can't pay Krieder more than Marchand and he might just get a deal similar to hayes...
20 févr. 2020 à 13 h 29
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Quoting: Propeller09
It's actually his playoff performance that worries me. Guys who are built like him should get better when the playoffs roll around not worse. .61ppg regular season .48ppg Playoffs.
He is sort of menh. He is one of the best available, but he isn't great. He similarity score is Nyqvist, Saad and Tatar. That is a menh group to me.


Rangers strategy in those playoff years was to park the bus and hope Hank won the game for us. It actually worked pretty well, but those playoff years were some of the most frustrating hockey I’ve ever watched.
20 févr. 2020 à 13 h 45
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First, learn how to use the quote function. Go read insiders then. Don’t have your own opinions. Lap up whatever the writers give you.
20 févr. 2020 à 13 h 48
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cant argue with stupid so i wont


Out of curiosity which do you disagree with?
1. Kreider is a left winger.
2. The bruins need is a right winger.
3. Kreider is a .6 point per game player.

Those were my points. You say it’s stupid, so, which of those is incorrect and so dumb?
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20 févr. 2020 à 14 h 3
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Out of curiosity which do you disagree with?
1. Kreider is a left winger.
2. The bruins need is a right winger.
3. Kreider is a .6 point per game player.

Those were my points. You say it’s stupid, so, which of those is incorrect and so dumb?


I see what you did there! Haha good one. As much as I hate the Bruins, it’s been a good discussion, good luck this week.
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20 févr. 2020 à 15 h 7
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