Fair trade for both teams, something I don't see very often, good job.

From a Wild fan's perspective - I might agree with Zach above that it seems fair, but I don't think I would pull the trigger on it. I am a big Brayden Schenn fan and many of my rosters on here involve me "acquiring" him, but... Coyle is a very, very good all-around player who is just starting to figure out how good he can be. He is also signed to a very team-friendly deal and that adds a whole bunch to his value in a trade. Alex Tuch is the player the Wild have never had: Big, physical, fast, great shot, etc. I've watched him in the past two prospect camps and in a few of his college games and I believe he is the real deal and a future 25-30 goal scorer at the NHL level. So...I would have a very difficult time letting him go!
You can keep Nick Schultz, I didn't like his soft play when he was here anyway. I can't say I know enough about Laughton and Leier to properly assess their value in this trade. Replace the lesser of the two with Konecny and we can re-evaluate this deal.

Laughton is a wild card. I think the best he'll be is bottom six, but a good bottom six, one that will be a good two way player, has speed , wont hurt you defensively and will chip in with goals. Leier will only be a call up player as a stop gap, that could crack the lineup as a speedy 4th line player.
Like I said I believed that Minnesota was taking the gamble so I agree with you on adding Konecny but the draft pick goes away. Of course I am assuming you are correct on Tuch.

This is a tough one. Cap is the big issue for the Wild. Schenn+Dumba will cost at least $7m and the Wild just don't have that. A deal could be worked out, but the pieces would have to be swapped around some.

Did you go to the camp this year? I couldn't make it, was busy camping (ironically).


Out of necessity the Wild's FWD prospects will get a good look in preseason (Wild will be down a 2 lines with players at the WCH).

Tuch going into camp is probably about a 40% chance of making the big team, will definitely get a 9 game callup in season. He is the Wild's closest NHL ready top6 FWD in the system.

I don't think this deal can work without Pominville going to Philadelphia. There is just not enough cap space to make this work for the Wild if his 5.6 cap stays. Also the Wild don't need a 2 more bottom 6 D. They already have enough of those with Folin, Prosser, Reilly. And if Pominville goes there is no way Coyle can go. Pominville and RFA rights to Dumba for Schenn?

And Schenn would have to guarantee to sign with the Wild or else no deal.

This is one of the very few good discussions on this board!

I'd rather trade Brodin or Scandella than Dumba. The Wild have an excess of L handed d-men. But, the Flyers have Provorov and Sanheim coming up...

IF the Wild were to move Dumba (and I don't want them to) I could see Dumba, Pominville, and Zucker or Granlund for the rights to Schenn, Travis Konecny, and maybe Laughton or a 2nd rounder. OR, Scandella or Brodin, Pominville and Granlund for Schenn, Konecny and Sanheim. I really want Gudas, but I can't imagine the Flyers trading him right after signing him to a new contract...

The other factor involved in all this is the expansion draft. Every team is going to try to position themselves to protect certain players and expose others. I haven't looked into the Flyers enough to figure out if any of these moves make sense...

Brodin is the last Dman I want the Wild to trade. He's can play either side, and is the only Dman (not named Suter) that I see as a true top pair guy. Dumba has that ceiling, but probably ends up as a second pair/PPQB (a bigger version of Spurgeon).

I'd rather trade Scandella or Spurgeon (both are about at their ceiling). Reilly should replace/pass Scandella, Dumba should replace/pass Spurgeon in time.

Zucker and Granny are the two (not named Pommer) FWDs I'd look to move first. Nino and Coyle are the two FWD's I least want to trade.

Tuch is too interesting for me to part with yet. Get him out of the tire fire of Iowa and he might really excel. Iowa should be much better this year, but at best they are a mid pack AHL team.

For a young (ELC) true 1C I'd be open to trading just about anyone. Kunin is the best chance we have at that, but probably is more of a 2C (early yet, but watching him a UW last year). JEE is 2/3C from random stats I've seen (can't say that I've ever watched him play live/tv).

The way you feel about Tuch is the way I feel about Sanhiem and Konecny. How about just Schenn and Laughton with the second rd pick for just Coyle?
Pommer makes no sense for the Flyers, his age his salary, the years on his contract wouldnt fit in the plans.

Zucker and Granny and rights to dumba for Schenn, Haag and a pick is interesting but you would have to sell me on Zucker and Granny

Granny is a hard sell, if you want him as a 2C he has the history of it. At wing (where he's playing this year) I can't do anything except point to small sample of the Playoffs and Worlds. He's is one of those players that steps up when the stakes are higher. A playmaker that needs to shoot more often. Top-6 FWD

Zucker was white hot to open the year, then went ice cold (so did the rest of the team). Got concussed during our outdoor game and looked off the rest of the season. Maybe came back too soon? Mid-6 FWD. Has a 20g season, fast, and likes to score in the first minute of the game.

Granny+Zucker+b FWD prospect/late pick for Scheen? Adding in Dumba really throws off values. Pommer is a bad trade for Philly.

Sold! Granny and Zucker plus a pick for Schenn. Flyers need more forwards, if they get two for 1 and a pick, done deal!

Granlund and Zucker straight up for Schenn and you have a deal!

Seems to me that you are underestimating what we can get for Schenn in a sign and trade. Shultz is a serviceable D man and comes with a reasonable price (hard to find these days). Laughton should work well between Bellemare and VandeVelde (can always be traded at a later date)