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Créé par: budsallday

Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 5 févr. 2020

Publié: 5 févr. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Mirtle in the Athletic says that Subban can be traded and I know the Leafs were interested him in the Summer and were down to the wire with him. If they are still interested should they still pursue this option? With salary retainage and dumping Cody Ceci, of course, its the only way money will work.

And is this enough to take him? I am thinking since hes having a bad season you can buy low right now. Kapanen one-for-one for Subban would probably get it done and adding in a prospect to take back Cody Ceci will do it.

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Subban, P.K. (4 500 000 $ retained)

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Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
24	81 500 000 $	81 291 310 $	0 $	70 000 $	208 690 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Johnsson, Andreas 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston 11 634 000 $11 634 000 $ C UFA - 5	Marner, Mitchell 10 893 000 $10 893 000 $ AD UFA - 6
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 6	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 5
Mikheyev, Ilya 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 4
Engvall, Pierre 925 000 $925 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Spezza, Jason 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AD NTC UFA - 1
Timashov, Dmytro 694 444 $694 444 $ (70 000 $$70K) AG UFA - 1	Gauthier, Frédérik 675 000 $675 000 $ C UFA - 1	Moore, Trevor 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Subban, P.K. 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Hutchinson, Michael 700 000 $700 000 $ G UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus 894 167 $894 167 $ DG UFA - 3	Holl, Justin 675 000 $675 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Kaskisuo, Kasimir 675 000 $675 000 $ G UFA - 1
Dermott, Travis 863 333 $863 333 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
Marincin, Martin 700 000 $700 000 $ DG UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Horton, Nathan 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
		Clarkson, David 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1

5 févr. 2020 à 8 h 31

Price_is_the_goat

Rejoint: avr. 2017

Messages: 6,090

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subban is barely a top 4...

5 févr. 2020 à 8 h 32

Webbles

Rejoint: mars 2019

Messages: 608

Mentions "j'aime": 185

I will officially stop being a Leaf fan if they acquire Subban. I wouldn't forfeit a 7th round pick for that locker room cancer.

5 févr. 2020 à 8 h 39

RobbStark03

Rejoint: mai 2016

Messages: 2,012

Mentions "j'aime": 556

Subban probably doesn't help much this year, but if he could rehab his back in the offseason this could be a steal.

FrustratedToronto a aimé ceci.

5 févr. 2020 à 8 h 58

palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

Rejoint: juill. 2015

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Leafs want the cap freedom for the next two years and not have Subban. Don't know why you even suggest the Leafs were interested in the 9m Subban last summer. They didn't have the cap didn't want to to trade other players just to acquire an overpaid Dman

5 févr. 2020 à 9 h 6

FrustratedToronto

Rejoint: mai 2017

Messages: 148

Mentions "j'aime": 47

Quoting: palhal

Think they're suggesting NJD retains half his salary. Makes him a $4.5M defenseman.

5 févr. 2020 à 9 h 9

palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

Rejoint: juill. 2015

Messages: 59,778

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Quoting: FrustratedToronto

Think they're suggesting NJD retains half his salary. Makes him a $4.5M defenseman.

Still too much. He ain't that good now and certainly don't want him at 4.5m for the following two seasons. Just better ways to spend 4.5m. If Andersen is out for any length of time, it really doesn't matter for the 10th place Leafs .

5 févr. 2020 à 9 h 32

Smitty426

Rejoint: mai 2016

Messages: 6,869

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Quoting: palhal

I agree he's not worth $9 but he is definitely a $4.5M d man. I get you don't like/want him, which is fine, but PK for 2 more at $4.5 is not crazy.

FrustratedToronto a aimé ceci.

5 févr. 2020 à 9 h 34

Boomer125

Rejoint: avr. 2019

Messages: 7,125

Mentions "j'aime": 1,640

Quoting: palhal

Because they were interested, had a deal in place with Nashville, Polie would not retain 2/3 million so it fell through. Leafs were in on Subban last summer

5 févr. 2020 à 9 h 39

FrustratedToronto

Rejoint: mai 2017

Messages: 148

Mentions "j'aime": 47

Quoting: palhal

He's been bad this year, true. Most players in NJD have been. But he was good last year and for a decade before, at $4.5M for the positives he brings, if fully healthy (which he isn't right now), they could do a lot worse. A motivated Subban may still be a scary thing. Pair him with Sandin on the third pair. Not a terrible core. Depending on what it costs the team they should look at it. Cheaper it is, more assets they have to go after a RHD for Rielly.

budsallday a aimé ceci.

5 févr. 2020 à 9 h 58

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Hawksince71

Rejoint: juill. 2019

Messages: 640

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For what Jersey paid to acquire Subban, they are going to want some picks back. If Subban was slated to be UFA, I would say this would be a trade Toronto should do, but to have Subban and his massive ego for several more years, could cause more harm that good.

There are cheaper alternatives. #1 Hamonic (if the Flames keep free falling), # 2 Martinez, #3 Dumba

budsallday a aimé ceci.

5 févr. 2020 à 9 h 59

#11

MG1986

#LeafsFever

Rejoint: mai 2017

Messages: 3,787

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The Leafs clearly need to work on their defensive game, shot suppression, penalty kill and overall work ethic, so in those regards, I do not feel PK Subban is the right fit.

budsallday a aimé ceci.

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