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Next Season- Trades with COL This Trade DL

Créé par: AJC13
Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 12 janv. 2020
Publié: 19 janv. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Assuming salary cap Increases only $1.5 million.
Kreider gets $7.5 million per to reduce contract length to 5 year term.
Players on LTIR are possible recalls from the AHL.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3800 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
24 750 000 $
1735 000 $
1735 000 $
41 750 000 $
1735 000 $
1735 000 $
1735 000 $
45 000 000 $
1771 750 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
32 500 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
1750 000 $
57 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Greer, AJ [Droits de RFA]
2.
NYR
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
$1,500,000- retained 4th becomes a 3rd
$3,000,000- 4th becomes Shane Bowers
$4,250,000- 4th becomes 2020 a 1st
COL
  1. Lundqvist, Henrik
Détails additionnels:
Lundqvist requests trade to a cup contending team that needs him rather than serve as the 3rd string goalie for the rest of this season and next season.
Rachats de contrats
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2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2483 000 000 $82 560 716 $0 $7 045 000 $439 284 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 7
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AD
RFA - 2
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11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
771 750 $771 750 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 3
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
DG/DD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
G
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 2
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735 000 $735 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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809 166 $809 166 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DD
RFA - 2
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5 700 000 $5 700 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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735 000 $735 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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833 333 $833 333 $
DG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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811 667 $811 667 $
DG
RFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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19 janv. 2020 à 4 h 15
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Colorado isnt looking for a goalie, especially an expensive one that costs assets in a trade
19 janv. 2020 à 4 h 31
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Colorado isnt looking for a goalie, especially an expensive one that costs assets in a trade


That's not what I heard down at the Docks (boat and railroadsmile and a 4th round pick is not much of an asset in trade. I heard COL goaltending is currently floundering and again won't get them very far in the playoffs, just like last season.

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/01/13/avalanche-henrik-lundqvist-trade-target/
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19 janv. 2020 à 4 h 33
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Truly hope NYR wouldn’t give CK $7.5M
19 janv. 2020 à 4 h 43
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Colorado isnt looking for a goalie, especially an expensive one that costs assets in a trade



Also Lundqvist's actual salary next season is only $5.5 million, not the $8.5 million cap hit. Which allows COL to continue being frugal.
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Truly hope NYR wouldn’t give CK $7.5M


Thought it might be better to over pay CK a little bit and keep the term 5 years instead of 6-7 years.
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These are all pretty terrible ideas across the board from
1) Resigning Kreider
2) Resigning Strome
3) Bridging Deangelo
4) Massively underselling Hank
5) Trading for an older, worse version of Lias


Were you trying to improve the team?
19 janv. 2020 à 9 h 6
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Thought it might be better to over pay CK a little bit and keep the term 5 years instead of 6-7 years.


He’s on a contract year and has come on of late. Even with this spurt, he’s on pace for 55 pts. He has had his standard 10-12 game disappearing act and it may happen again. As he gets older, it may only become 15-20 game disappearing acts. He’ll gradually slow down as well. Sorry just not a huge fan of giving him anything over $7M a year.
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These are all pretty terrible ideas across the board from
1) Resigning Kreider
2) Resigning Strome
3) Bridging Deangelo
4) Massively underselling Hank
5) Trading for an older, worse version of Lias


Were you trying to improve the team?


"Am I trying to improve the team?" Why yes, yes I am...

1- "Resigning Kreider"... Kreider is a dynamic player who's speed, physicality, and net front presence, will be practically impossible to replace. Kreider is one of the best athletes in the league and I don't believe his game will fall off over the next 5 years. What UFA's or players available in trade have the unique talent type of Chris Kreider? Nobody! Players of his ability are rarely traded and are most often locked up to a contract long before ever becoming a UFA.

2- "Resigning Strome"... Strome has played like the top 5 draft pick that he is since being acquired by NYR. Panarin is having the best year he's ever had in the NHL with Strome as his centre. Playing with Panarin, Strome is a point per game player and no other centre has ever made Panarin a better player - which is why Panarin has the highest stat total he's ever had and is playing in his 1st All-star game this season. And Panarin has played with some rather talented (Stanley Cup winning) centres in the past, but none have made him a better player than Strome.

3- "Bridging DeAngelo"... After DeAngelo's bridge deal concludes, DeAngelo will still be a RFA and will have the highest trade value - compared to any longer term contract. At the end of his bridge deal, NYR can determine if they want to resign him or trade him if the younger D-men prospects currently developing in the system prove worthy enough of playing in the NHL. Not to mention, bridge deals seem to keep players hungry and have a way of bringing out their best efforts.

4- "Massively Underselling Hank"... Only underselling Hank if COL picks up all of his $8.5 million contract or $7 million of it. Shane Bowers was a 1st round pick and played for Coach Quinn at BU. And this years draft is supposed to be very deep with talent, so regardless of how late in round one COL picks - there should be a good player available.

5- "Trading for an older, worse version of Lias"... AJ Greer is nothing like Lias Andersson. AJ is a physical force, can drop the gloves to protect teammates, could also develop into a good scorer - especially under Coach Quinn's tutoring for whom he played for at BU, and (unlike Mr. Andersson) AJ has absolutely no problem playing on the 4th line.
19 janv. 2020 à 11 h 14
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Quoting: AJC13
"Am I trying to improve the team?" Why yes, yes I am...

1- "Resigning Kreider"... Kreider is a dynamic player who's speed, physicality, and net front presence, will be practically impossible to replace. Kreider is one of the best athletes in the league and I don't believe his game will fall off over the next 5 years. What UFA's or players available in trade have the unique talent type of Chris Kreider? Nobody! Players of his ability are rarely traded and are most often locked up to a contract long before ever becoming a UFA. evo-war-graph.png?w=1230, Kreider's value is mostly tied up in his speed. Speed is the 1st thing to go with age... Good luck lol.

2- "Resigning Strome"... Strome has played like the top 5 draft pick that he is since being acquired by NYR. Panarin is having the best year he's ever had in the NHL with Strome as his centre. Playing with Panarin, Strome is a point per game player and no other centre has ever made Panarin a better player - which is why Panarin has the highest stat total he's ever had and is playing in his 1st All-star game this season. And Panarin has played with some rather talented (Stanley Cup winning) centres in the past, but none have made him a better player than Strome. ...Panarin's goal differential is literally better without Strome than with Strome. If you want to put Panarin with a player that improves his game, his numbers are significantly better next to Chytil...

3- "Bridging DeAngelo"... After DeAngelo's bridge deal concludes, DeAngelo will still be a RFA and will have the highest trade value - compared to any longer term contract. At the end of his bridge deal, NYR can determine if they want to resign him or trade him if the younger D-men prospects currently developing in the system prove worthy enough of playing in the NHL. Not to mention, bridge deals seem to keep players hungry and have a way of bringing out their best efforts.

Oh man if only the Avalanche bridged Mackinnon he'd be so hungry lol. This logic sucks.


4- "Massively Underselling Hank"... Only underselling Hank if COL picks up all of his $8.5 million contract or $7 million of it. Shane Bowers was a 1st round pick and played for Coach Quinn at BU. And this years draft is supposed to be very deep with talent, so regardless of how late in round one COL picks - there should be a good player available.

Hank is appropriately paid at 8mil.....he's a top 5 goalie in the league. Half retained, he's worth significantly more than a 1st...

5- "Trading for an older, worse version of Lias"... AJ Greer is nothing like Lias Andersson. AJ is a physical force, can drop the gloves to protect teammates, could also develop into a good scorer - especially under Coach Quinn's tutoring for whom he played for at BU, and (unlike Mr. Andersson) AJ has absolutely no problem playing on the 4th line.



I....can't even begin.

Usually I just like to engage in intelligent discussions on here. And since you've revealed your intelligence here. I don't think a discussion is necessary. Welcome to the ignore list.
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19 janv. 2020 à 11 h 54
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Quoting: Sagecoll
I....can't even begin.

Usually I just like to engage in intelligent discussions on here. And since you've revealed your intelligence here. I don't think a discussion is necessary. Welcome to the ignore list.


You're an idiot, who cars what you think or what list you put me on. You're ignoring everything I stated that already proved "your opinions" wrong. First off lovely chart, but Kreider's value is much more than speed and you're not taking into account the absolute beast Kreider is physically. Signing Kreider for five years and not six or seven is perfect.

Strome is playing like the top 5 pick he was drafted as and is a point per game player. Centres like that don't grow on tree's moron. What's wrong with having three good lines, the 3rd line centred by Chytil?

Signing DeAngelo to a longer contract when he's no longer an RFA could hamstring the Rangers from trading him when many of their young talented D-men (that are better defensively) are ready to play in the NHL.

What ever "your opinion" of Hank is, no team is trading a 1st round pick for him unless NYR retains half his salary, which is exactly what I'm proposing dummy.

If The Rangers could get more in trade for Andersson - Great! But I'd rather have Zibanejad, Strome, Chytil, and Barron, (as well as Howden - though he's found his game and playing fantastic on the wing), then Andersson. The first three are obvious and you're an idiot if you believe Andersson is better than any of them. Barron is one of the best college centres in college hockey and might be ready for the NHL as soon as next season. And AJ Greer (unlike Andersson) is a great team player who realises, "the name on the front of the jersey is a heck of a lot more important the the name on the back." AJ Greer also played for Quinn at BU.

Sooo basically when an ignorant fool like you puts me on their ignorant list, it's actually a great honour!
19 janv. 2020 à 13 h 34
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That's not what I heard down at the Docks (boat and railroadsmile and a 4th round pick is not much of an asset in trade. I heard COL goaltending is currently floundering and again won't get them very far in the playoffs, just like last season.

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/01/13/avalanche-henrik-lundqvist-trade-target/


Quoting: AJC13
Also Lundqvist's actual salary next season is only $5.5 million, not the $8.5 million cap hit. Which allows COL to continue being frugal.


Haha did you read the article? It talks about how the coach has absolute faith in grubauer, but the beat reporter doesnt and thinks they should go after a 8.5 million dollar cap hit backup goalie just in case..

And while hanks salary may only be 5.5 mill next year his cap hit is 8.5 which is more concerning than the money they actually have to shell out
20 janv. 2020 à 5 h 7
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Quoting: JeffW
Haha did you read the article? It talks about how the coach has absolute faith in grubauer, but the beat reporter doesnt and thinks they should go after a 8.5 million dollar cap hit backup goalie just in case..

And while hanks salary may only be 5.5 mill next year his cap hit is 8.5 which is more concerning than the money they actually have to shell out


What do you expect the coach to say? I have absolutely (no) faith in Grubauer. The purpose of my posting was not so much to do with a trade with COL, but rather how the Rangers lineup would look if Lundqvist was traded. COL in this particular case is rather generic and any team could replace COL with a trade for Lundqvist because only draft picks and an AHL player were used as options instead of a specific return. Hearing things at the docks is a reference from the movie Rocky. I know the article is just some reporter asking the question to COL fans reading it, should COL trade for Lundqvist. More of a think piece article than a factual one.
 
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