Top 10 W, no.

Top 10 LW, yes.

Wingers over Hall (no particular order)
Marchand, Ovi, Kane, Kuch, Panarin, Huby, Drai, Pasta, Stone. So Hall would be #10

agree with you 100%

Wingers:

Ovechkin
Kane
Wheeler
Pastrnak
Marchand
Kucherov
Draisaitl
Gaudreau
Rantanen
Stone

Prob a top 10 LW

Throw Marner and Mikko in there as well

thank you

Mikko plays w Nate Mack and Marner became elite after he played w JT. I’d like to see them all with equal line mates

Rantanen Kane and Drai are definitely not top 10 wingers, Drai might be the worst defensive player in the league, he just gets the luck of laying with quite possibly the best offensive talent ever, Rants, plays with Mack, is a first liner, but is by no means a top 10 winger, Kane is just so awful analytically, plus he's also terrible defensively

Yes Hall is a top 10 winger... Has he been a top 10 winger this year, no, but if you take into account more than his 40ish games this year, he's clearly better than he has been playing this year

Pasta plays with Bergy and Marchand
Marchand plays with Bergy and Pasta
Ovy plays with Backstrom
Huberdeau plays with Barkov

As a Devils fan, the first and last year Hall was a top 10 winger was his MVP year

He was really good when healthy last year too

But it’s common knowledge that they are all better than Hall (besides Huby maybe.) I feel like it’s close between Mikko, Marner and Hall and I’d give Hall the benefit of the doubt since he was an MVP and his line mates definitely aren’t as optimal as Mikkos and Marner

marner puts up better numbers and is alot better defensively, cant fault a guy fort who he plays with especially when he contributes so much

So I just have a question has Draisaitl been playing wing now

cant just say MVP and it justifies it, no offense to hall but he had a monster year on a bad team and he was the most valuable TO HIS TEAM that year. wasnt the best player in the NHL.

oilers switch it up alot, i think hes playing 2nd line center rn but he will play wing with connor

Ok thank you I always said to my dad that they should have them two on a line together

Is it though? You're point was that Mikko and Marner play with other great players- my point is that pretty much everyone on your list plays with great players too. Hall isn't the same player post injuries.

You're absolutely right he had 37 pts in 33 games

Not anymore, no. He's definitely fallen a step back since his injury and other guys are quickly surpassing him.



Even considering "optimal linemates", I don't see how it's close between the three.

Marner is 19th overall in total points for all players since he entered the league. Rantanen is 30th and Hall is 49th. (https://www.hockey-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&year_min=2017&year_max=2020&season_start=1&season_end=-1&rookie=N&age_min=0&age_max=99&pos=S&is_playoffs=N&threshhold=5&order_by=points)

Marner is 18th overall in 5v5 points for all players since he entered the league. Rantanen is 50th and Hall is 84th. (https://www.hockey-reference.com/play-index/ppbp_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&year_min=2017&year_max=2020&season_start=1&season_end=-1&rookie=N&age_min=0&age_max=99&pos=S&situation_id=5on5&order_by=points)

bc using just raw points takes into account the fact that Hall has probably played roughly 50 less games than either of the other two... (not to mention their defensive, puck control, QoT, QoC, etc...)

That’s true you bring up a really good point

Yeah sorry, I'm not preparing an essay on the advanced metrics between Hall, Marner and Rantanen. My point is that I believe Marner is a best of the three.

I believe that as well but I also think its closer than you think

agreed and i think hall is the worst out if the 3 and he has 5 and 6 years on both of them.