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Isis Brad Marchand the best player in the league

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Date de création initiale: 28 nov. 2019
Publié: 28 nov. 2019
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This will ruffle some feathers. I’m not really venturing an opinion either way, but let’s run down some numbers, under the context that he is elite defensively.
Per 60 minute stats:
Goals: 2nd (behind pastrnak)
Even strength goals: 1st
Assists: 2nd, just behind Draisaitl.
EV assists: 4th, behind barkov, Malkin, rantanen.
Points: first. By a lot.
EV points: First. By a full point per 60. Marchand is at 4.975, second is Draisaitl at 3.95. That’s insane.

Again, all this in the context that he’s elite defensively, getting tough match ups every night, playing penalty kill etc.

It’s not ridiculous. It’s a legitimate question. If you have to win one hockey game tomorrow, is he the first guy picked? Probably not, but maybe.
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28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 32
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Mcdavid, Marchand has has certainly barged his way into the top 10 in the league over the past few years and I would say now he is a top 5 forward.
28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 33
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david pastarnak is the best player in the league
28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 37
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As an Oiler fan, my answer to this day is still Crosby. This isn't to disregard Marchand or the superduo in Edmonton - or even the often overlooked MacKinnon - but if I'm in a World-vs-Aliens scenario, Sidney is always going to be my first pick. There isn't a better hockey player on the planet in terms of ability, production, or defensive viability.

Marchand, I believe, really benefits from having the defensive assurances of Bergeron and super-competent defenders and goaltenders. Having one of the best "next-generation" scorers for a right wing definitely wouldn't hurt his production. McDavid and Draisaitl are starting to show the defensive acumen, but they aren't there yet despite their actual production still being ahead of Marchand's. In all, I'd say in terms of "best player in the game right now" I'd probably have Marchand inside my top-5. He's an exceptional talent on arguably the best team in the league since the turn of the decade, and all NHL fans (despite his being a rat) should enjoy watching him perform in the peak of his career before we don't have that opportunity anymore.
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28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 41
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As an Oiler fan, my answer to this day is still Crosby. This isn't to disregard Marchand or the superduo in Edmonton - or even the often overlooked MacKinnon - but if I'm in a World-vs-Aliens scenario, Sidney is always going to be my first pick. There isn't a better hockey player on the planet in terms of ability, production, or defensive viability.

Marchand, I believe, really benefits from having the defensive assurances of Marchand and super-competent defenders and goaltenders. Having one of the best "next-generation" scorers for a right wing definitely wouldn't hurt his production. McDavid and Draisaitl are starting to show the defensive acumen, but they aren't there yet despite their actual production still being ahead of Marchand's. In all, I'd say in terms of "best player in the game right now" I'd probably have Marchand inside my top-5. He's an exceptional talent on arguably the best team in the league since the turn of the decade, and all NHL fans (despite his being a rat) should enjoy watching him perform in the peak of his career before we don't have that opportunity anymore.


This might be the best post that has graced this site. Well done sir.

I love the space jam analogy, and I agree with it fully. I think in order if i had to pick a starting five, I would go Crosby, Doughty (I know, I’m crazy, this is a one game scenario), McDavid, Marchand, Hedman (if healthy)
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28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 41
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
david pastarnak is the best player in the league


Lol, hardly. Leading goal scorer. Sure.

His defense is atrocious.
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28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 45
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Lol, hardly. Leading goal scorer. Sure.

His defense is atrocious.


The latter half of this post is not based in reality.
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28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 45
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Deserves to be in the conversation for top 5 OAT.
28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 48
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The latter half of this post is not based in reality.


Try watching the games with your eyes open. Trust me it helps.
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28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 50
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look, he's automatically disqualified for licking people's faces ok.

Lets just end it there.

What kind of human being does that? too many bath salts.
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Try watching the games with your eyes open. Trust me it helps.


He’s a very good defensive player. Active stick. Good positionally. Maybe cheats a little bit to the offensive side of the puck on occasion, but that’s about it. Pretty darn consistent on the forecheck too. I don’t know what game you’re watching, but it isn’t hockey.
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28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 52
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look, he's automatically disqualified for licking people's faces ok.

Lets just end it there.

What kind of human being does that? too many bath salts.


I can’t understand people being mad about that. It happened. It was freaking hilarious. He got chewed out for it, and it’s over. That was two years ago.
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28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 53
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look, he's automatically disqualified for licking people's faces ok.

Lets just end it there.

What kind of human being does that? too many bath salts.


And kissing komorav, I like that a lot better than the Speering and other dumb ****... in fact I like it a lot. Think it’s hilarious. Same as when he mocks people for diving.
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28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 55
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I hate the bruins and Marchand but gotta give credit where its due. He’s incredible - definitely top 3 winger in the league.
28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 55
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Lol, hardly. Leading goal scorer. Sure.

His defense is atrocious.


50 in 50 baby
28 nov. 2019 à 12 h 59
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He’s a very good defensive player. Active stick. Good positionally. Maybe cheats a little bit to the offensive side of the puck on occasion, but that’s about it. Pretty darn consistent on the forecheck too. I don’t know what game you’re watching, but it isn’t hockey.



Lol, holy jesus you are such a homer.

The only thing separating him from Dmitri Kvartalnov is he at least makes an effort to try to play D. Special K needed a GPS to find the defensive zone and someone to push him into it.

He’s the worst defensive player on the team. And if you made a list of the leagues worst he’d likely be on it.
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28 nov. 2019 à 13 h 0
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50 in 50 baby


Could very well be. Does not make him the best PLAYER in the league. Makes him maybe the best goal scorer.
28 nov. 2019 à 13 h 4
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Lol, holy jesus you are such a homer.

The only thing separating him from Dmitri Kvartalnov is he at least makes an effort to try to play D. Special K needed a GPS to find the defensive zone and someone to push him into it.

He’s the worst defensive player on the team. And if you made a list of the leagues worst he’d likely be on it.


Goodbye. I have no respect, or use for your opinions as they pertain to hockey. We’re done here.
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28 nov. 2019 à 13 h 5
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Goodbye. I have no respect, or use for your opinions as they pertain to hockey. We’re done here.


Thanks, biased homers make me ?
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28 nov. 2019 à 13 h 7
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All I took from your title is that Brad Marchand is in ISIS
28 nov. 2019 à 13 h 11
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All I took from your title is that Brad Marchand is in ISIS


Haha ya, that was not ideal.
28 nov. 2019 à 13 h 13
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Thanks, biased homers make me ?


has bcarlo hurt ur feelings recently or what. I feel like ur only attacking him instead of trying to prove pasta is a bad defender. Idk how u can say that anyway, theres a reason y cassidy has increasingly trusted pasta in defensive situations. Sure his defense may have been bad when he was a rookie and sophomore but he has matured in that category 100%. The difference is night and day. Instead of trying to throw personal attacks at bcarlo you should explain your reasoning as a civil human
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28 nov. 2019 à 13 h 14
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Question you need to ask yourself is. If you are starting a new team and had first pick out of any player in the league who would it be? The answer would never be Marchand the answer should be McDavid.
28 nov. 2019 à 13 h 18
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has bcarlo hurt ur feelings recently or what. I feel like ur only attacking him instead of trying to prove pasta is a bad defender. Idk how u can say that anyway, theres a reason y cassidy has increasingly trusted pasta in defensive situations. Sure his defense may have been bad when he was a rookie and sophomore but he has matured in that category 100%. The difference is night and day. Instead of trying to throw personal attacks at bcarlo you should explain your reasoning as a civil human


It’s all good. He’s made it onto the ignore list. He’s entitled to his opinions, i just have no use for them.
28 nov. 2019 à 13 h 18
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has bcarlo hurt ur feelings recently or what. I feel like ur only attacking him instead of trying to prove pasta is a bad defender. Idk how u can say that anyway, theres a reason y cassidy has increasingly trusted pasta in defensive situations. Sure his defense may have been bad when he was a rookie and sophomore but he has matured in that category 100%. The difference is night and day. Instead of trying to throw personal attacks at bcarlo you should explain your reasoning as a civil human


Then why have his defensive zone starts gone down each year if Cassidy trusts him more?

C’mon. I am not denigrating Pasta as a player or the value he brings to the team. I doubt i’d be willing to trade him for anyone.

But to even intimate that he is ok defensively is sticking your head in the sand delusional.
28 nov. 2019 à 13 h 20
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Then why have his defensive zone starts gone down each year if Cassidy trusts him more?

C’mon. I am not denigrating Pasta as a player or the value he brings to the team. I doubt i’d be willing to trade him for anyone.

But to even intimate that he is ok defensively is sticking your head in the sand delusional.


So prove it. Thats all they are asking. If you think he sucks defensively, back it up
 
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