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CBJ trade

Créé par: Davey40
Date de création initiale: 19 nov. 2019
Publié: 19 nov. 2019
Équipe: 2020-21 Red Wings de Detroit
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler45 500 000 $
Bowey, Madison21 250 000 $
Mantha, Anthony77 000 000 $
Fabbri, Robby22 500 000 $
Erne, Adam11 000 000 $
Hirose, Taro21 200 000 $
Perlini, Brendan21 200 000 $
Svechnikov, Evgeny21 200 000 $
Anderson, Josh33 250 000 $
Athanasiou, Andreas45 250 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Askarov, Yaroslav3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
DET
  1. Anderson, Josh [Droits de RFA]
  2. Werenski, Zachary
CBJ
  1. Zadina, Filip
  2. Cholowski, Dennis
2.
DET
  1. 2020 4e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Helm, Darren
Détails additionnels:
retain $1M on salary
Rachats de contrats
  • Stephen Weiss: 1 666 667 $
  • Frans Nielsen: 3 416 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Nick Leddy: 2 750 000 $ (50%)
  • David Savard: 1 062 500 $ (25%)
  • Richard Pánik: 1 375 000 $ (50%)
  • Patrik Nemeth: 1 500 000 $ (50%)
  • Vladislav Namestnikov: 1 000 000 $ (50%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
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2021
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Logo de VGK
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2483 000 000 $76 582 499 $0 $1 510 000 $6 417 501 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Bertuzzi, Tyler
5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Larkin, Dylan
6 100 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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Mantha, Anthony
7 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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Fabbri, Robby
2 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
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Athanasiou, Andreas
5 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Anderson, Josh
3 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
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Rasmussen, Michael
894 166 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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Veleno, Joseph
894 167 $
C
RFA - 3
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Svechnikov, Evgeny
1 200 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Smith, Givani
714 166 $
AG
RFA - 1
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Filppula, Valtteri
3 000 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
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Perlini, Brendan
1 200 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
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Hirose, Taro
1 200 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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Glendening, Luke
1 800 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
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Abdelkader, Justin
4 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Werenski, Zachary
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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Hronek, Filip
714 166 $
DD
RFA - 1
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Bernier, Jonathan
3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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DeKeyser, Danny
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
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Seider, Moritz
894 167 $
DD
RFA - 4
Askarov, Yaroslav
925 000 $
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Nemeth, Patrik
1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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Bowey, Madison
1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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Lindström, Gustav
775 833 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Zetterberg, Henrik
6 083 333 $
C
UFA - 1

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19 nov. 2019 à 9 h 47
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As Wings fan I would love it, but Zadina is now hurt after playing better the last 6 games and Cholowski though promising are not getting you those two players.
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19 nov. 2019 à 9 h 48
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Absolutely not a snowball's chance in hell. Given team needs, there is exactly one (1) player in the Red Wings organization that we would accept as the return in any Werenski deal, and that would be the childhood friend that folks seem to want to reunite him with. Throwing in Anderson just makes this an overwhelmingly egregious rip-off.
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19 nov. 2019 à 10 h 18
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Theoretical future value is not equal to actual value. Cholowski is a hypothetical top 4 defenseman and Zadina is a hypothetical top-9 NHL forward. Werenski is an actual #2/3 NHL defenseman. Not sure how people don't get this concept. And this is coming from a Wings' fan. This is like saying I'll give you an ounce of silver for your $50 bill.
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19 nov. 2019 à 10 h 47
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wow wing fans still think Zadina has top 3 pick value apparently....
19 nov. 2019 à 11 h 39
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
wow wing fans still think Zadina has top 3 pick value apparently....


I think once he learns how to find space and play away from the puck at the pro level he'll be fine. Probably not 40-goal-scorer fine but I think he'll hit 30 at some point with that release. Shot is lightning fast when he gets it off.
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19 nov. 2019 à 11 h 43
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Quoting: mikearky
As Wings fan I would love it, but Zadina is now hurt after playing better the last 6 games and Cholowski though promising are not getting you those two players.


Quoting: Viqsi
Absolutely not a snowball's chance in hell. Given team needs, there is exactly one (1) player in the Red Wings organization that we would accept as the return in any Werenski deal, and that would be the childhood friend that folks seem to want to reunite him with. Throwing in Anderson just makes this an overwhelmingly egregious rip-off.


Quoting: Hellochris06
Theoretical future value is not equal to actual value. Cholowski is a hypothetical top 4 defenseman and Zadina is a hypothetical top-9 NHL forward. Werenski is an actual #2/3 NHL defenseman. Not sure how people don't get this concept. And this is coming from a Wings' fan. This is like saying I'll give you an ounce of silver for your $50 bill.


I agree with all of you Werenski would be great to have but this trade is really bad, really really bad. If I was Columbus I'm not sure that would trade Anderson alone for that. As a Wings fan I'd like to apologize for this.

Quoting: Subbanator7667
wow wing fans still think Zadina has top 3 pick value apparently....


That's pretty rich coming from a Habs fan.
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19 nov. 2019 à 11 h 46
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
wow wing fans still think Zadina has top 3 pick value apparently....


Absolutely, some of us actually watch him play in the AHL unlike you just stat watching. Point pace is picking up but more importantly he looks good
19 nov. 2019 à 12 h 36
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Columbus doesn’t need wingers... we need better centers. PLD is looking like a top center and both Wennberg and Jenner are solid 3rd line guys. Any trade with Detroit for Werenski would have to include Veleno who has the potential to be a second line center. If you also want Anderson you’ll have to add a player such as Cholo or Hornek in the trade.

Last thing, if this is meant to be next year, I’m pretty sure Askarov is still signed in the KHL and ineligible to sign in the NHL.
19 nov. 2019 à 13 h 13
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Quoting: aedoran
That's pretty rich coming from a Habs fan.


Quoting: Drw4209
Absolutely, some of us actually watch him play in the AHL unlike you just stat watching. Point pace is picking up but more importantly he looks good


I mean we made the right choice, it was Detroit fans laughing at us saying how much better Zadina was. Then his quote of how he was going to fill our net with goals, and now he is in his second year in the minors. Here we are almost two years out from that draft and its pretty clear the top 4 in the draft deserved to be drafted ahead of him.
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19 nov. 2019 à 13 h 49
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
I mean we made the right choice, it was Detroit fans laughing at us saying how much better Zadina was. Then his quote of how he was going to fill our net with goals, and now he is in his second year in the minors. Here we are almost two years out from that draft and its pretty clear the top 4 in the draft deserved to be drafted ahead of him.


Yeah I agree you needed a center you took a center. I was referring to your comment saying Detroit overvalues their players something Montreal fans on this site do quite often. So when you made that comment I just fired back. With Zadina I still think Detroit should've taken Hughes.
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19 nov. 2019 à 15 h 17
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Quoting: Ajp_18
Columbus doesn’t need wingers... we need better centers. PLD is looking like a top center and both Wennberg and Jenner are solid 3rd line guys. Any trade with Detroit for Werenski would have to include Veleno who has the potential to be a second line center. If you also want Anderson you’ll have to add a player such as Cholo or Hornek in the trade.


Honestly, I wouldn't go for Veleno in a Werenski trade. Werenski is a roster player and I'd want a roster player back, not futures.
 
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